So…where can one find a complete list of the funding changes between 2005 and 2006?
-Joe
San Diego, funding cut in half.
I guess all those Navy ships aren’t much of a target.
Two comments.
From the linked article:
This, seems to be a pretty large fucking flaw in the DHS “matrix.” It needs to be corrected and the allocation analysis run again.
On the other hand, this thing needs to be scrapped. The potential for abuse and damage to the rights of free citizens is shocking. Everybody’s bitching about Dubya’s assualt on the rights of individuals, but those are pretty pale in comparison with this thing. If the DHS cuts mean this system won’t be deployed, then I’d say that’s a positive effect.
Okay, three comments. Sorry.
If Mayor Bloomberg really means this, that “money is no object,” then he’s an idiot and should be unelected at the earliest opportunity.
Frankly, the Navy, of all things in San Diego, oughtta be able to provide their own security out of their DOD budget.
Lotsa otherwise rational folks in this thread arguing strongly in favor of government pork. Kinda saddens me.
Yeah, they’re pretty much still at the “fucking up in the same old obvious way” stage.
This kinda doesn’t hold up since DC got cut by 40% as well.
Yes, DC can’t vote and thus is neither Red nor Blue, but it’s where ‘they’ (as in the powerfull Reds) live…
Ratified in 1961. Maybe you’ve been busy.
I think (and hope) you misinterpreted what he said. He has been a very good mayor and is a financial genius as a self-made Billionaire. He is the Bloomberg of the Bloomberg Report. I would guess he meant, they would spend what was required and find a way to pay for it. I would not ever believe him capable of “money is no object,”.
Jim
I agree. At least with the fiscal responsibility portion of what was said. It does seem oddly out of character from a guy who’s made such a pile of money as Bloomberg has. Perhaps the news story has taken his remarks out of context.
On the other hand, to me, Bloomberg’s assault on the rights of gun owners, and utter refusal to abide the duly enacted federal legislation protecting the gun industry from “junk lawsuits” is reason enough to call for his immediate unelection. He insists on persuing a court case - and wasting buckets of NYC taxpayer dollars - on a doomed lawsuit. But that ain’t got anything to do with this thread, so forget I said it.
Uhh…the article at the bottom wants to imply that Jacksonville has no targets, except for Alltel
stadium…
How bout NAS Mayport, home of an aircraft carrier? How about one of the fastest growing deep water seaports on the east coast? Besides the large current military presence, there is also an old NAS that is probably going to be converted into a spaceport as well
Sounds to me like all Bloomberg meant was that the security plan was not based on the federal funding amount, but on the needs of the city. As opposed to saying that X Y and Z could safely be scrapped since someone else wasn’t paying for it. Take away the federal money, he still wants to beef up security, and will try and figure out a way to pay for it.
I wonder how many of the cities with big increases will have to try and figure out how to spend it.
His remarks are quoted make perfect sense. Would you rather he invent a need based on the level of funding, or evaluate the need first, and then work on getting the money to meet the need. The security needs of New York remain unchanged even if the morons at DHS decide to send the money to Omaha. And getting the money for a critical need is a far cry from “money is no object” so you’re putting words in his mouth.
My understanding of pork is that it is money for low priority items that is politcally driven. Lots of money to meet terrorist threats to Omaha is pork, not money for actual threats to San Diego or New York.
So, if I missed it I apologize, but has anyone posted the raw dollar values? Because these percentages are sort of meaningless without knowing what the original amounts were. It seems to me that doubling or even tripling the amount of Homeland Security funding that Omaha is receiving is probably small potatoes, since I doubt they’re receiving even remotely as much money as most of the bigger cities facing cuts.
You dislike everyone who lives in New York?
What an exceptionally moronic thing to say. I’ll try to charitably assume that it’s an abberration.
It’s not inherently irrational not to share your political opinions.
I agree with you, though, that those plans for “security” sound a lot like they involve substantial violations of people’s liberties.
Not so. Some idea of cost has to be factored in while you’re deciding what’s “needed.” I rather he decided what’s affordable at certain levels of funding. “Need,” after all is a pretty abstract concept. If lower Manhattan “needs” a bomb-proof bubble installed over it which is permeable only by approved aircraft, boats, land vehicles and pedestrians, and Bloomberg goes ahead and plans to do that while worrying about the cost only after the fact, that would be totally irresponsible.
DC has been disenfranchised!? Ye gods!
I think you will find that the ‘reds’ you mention don’t consider it home, and it if DC were allowed to vote, it’d vote blue.
Probably not all of them. Just the ones I’ve met or listened to. 
I’ll forget it in a moment, after I point out the myopia. Look, I support gun hobbyists within reason. You want to use firearms responsibly? Have at it. But of all the damned stupid things to put undue emphasis on… Matching trade and budget deficits, crumbling Medicare and Social Security plans, and you worry about a slippery slope scenario whereby gun lawsuits eventually lead to a curtailing of your 2nd amendment rights? Get some fucking perspective.
How many of those things you listed as concerns greater than the rights guaranteed by the second amendment are within Bloomberg’s purview? He’s got a budget to worry about, of course, but Medicare and Social Security are federal programs. And I don’t think Bloomberg’s charter as mayor of NYC says much about the nation’s balance of trade either.
Look, Waverly, don’t start with your blue zone shit. We both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
Hey silenus: Fuck Youse!
Back to the topic at hand, this funding has never made any sense, and it does confirm a lot of my worst fears about the government’s incompetence and dedication to stupidity. (And I have to say, I have an awful lot of those.) I’m glad that every inch of Wyoming has the funds to be as secure as dozens of places in New York need to be. :rolleyes:
No, I want you to smoke pot, join Habitat for Humanity (or just Habitat, for those in the know), and fellate illegal aliens.