Yet Collounsbury contributed honest to God intelligent substance to Great Debates, and lissener contributes …
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I got nuthin’
And Collounsbury gave us a point of view that we don’t see a whole lot of around here. Not so much the case with lissener.
Pretty stupid, since Muhammad was an advocate of slavery, and the Muslims have been practicing human slavery (some say to this very day, in certain countries) in the name of Islam loooong before Whitey ever came along.
How is that relevant? We’re talking about the sincerity of Muhammad Ali’s action, not whether you would choose it for yourself. (And, I might point out, it seems to me that the the “slave name” thing has to to with one’s ancestors being slaves, not whether they were slave-owners.)
Unreal, too - Laurel Jane Juspeczyk.
There are some number of entertainers who use stage names, but don’t change their legal names (I think Alexander Siddig is one example), so I would assume that they pass their original names to their children.
The children of Martin Sheen (Ramón Estévez) have apparently kept their ethnic family name, although one of them (Charlie Sheen) uses the anglicized name as his own stage name.
This is probably not relevant to Aniston’s case, though, since so far as I know her father wasn’t an entertainer.
Maybe now, but his early on works Circus Maximus and the Murderers, Hope of Women ep were stunning. Tender Pervert has some real weak points, but it also contains a few incredible songs.
Later on, when he seemingly became obsessed with singing about sex, he did indeed become pretty boring, though he still tosses off (ha!) the occasional great song.
Right. Charlie is legally Carlos Irwin Estévez.
BTW, Martin adopted “Sheen” in honor of Bishop Fulton Sheen, whom he admired. It’s not anglicized from anything, but does reflect his half-Irish origins.
As for Fred Astaire, he gave up Austerlitz amidst all the German-bashing of the WW1 era. His ancestry was Alsatian (Franco-German) - Astaire was a Frenchification some of his ancestors had used.
Can we settle this by just calling it “mook rock”? 
Her father is the soap opera actor John Aniston aka Yannis Anastassakis. Jennifer took his anglicized last name.
Another difference between Erykah Badu and Mohammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabar is that they changed their names for religious reasons, while Badu changed hers from Erica Johnson because she didn’t like it. I’m not saying I have a problem with it, since a lot of musicians, esp. hip hop artists, use stage names.
Also, saying you dislike Tori Amos is a vastly different statement from saying she’s a sell out. You’re perfectly entitled not to like her, but it would seem that you don’t know her history and what she’s gone through with her record labels. She’s far from a sell out.
No, she didn’t take it, it was given to her. Again, it’s her real name.
You get what I’m saying. It’s her real name, because she took it from her father, who anglicized it. Please don’t nitpick me.
Somehow, I have acquired quite a few friends of Greek origins over the years and nearly all of the ones I have met that have traditional Greek first names go by a more anglicized name when dealing with the general public.
This is the only Momus I know, and I really like it. So are you saying the earlier stuff is even better?
How about Fraggle Rock?
Does lissener have a PhD level discussion on the merits of Fraggle rock and how it was influenced by 14th century monks?
Yes, yes, yes. The other two releases I mentioned are awesome. (The first link includes the EP I previously mentioned, and is a great album besides.) Circus Maximus is expensive in CD form, but cheap in Amazon MP3s.
Cool, I’ll check them out.
As for **lissener **- dumb drama queen can’t just apologise and leave it at that, can he? Love the mod response.
Let me guess, your friends are Daryl Hall and John Oates?
Oh I wasn’t talking so much about his music (which I think is pretty good in terms of witty lyricism) but his philosophical musings over at his click opera site.
I still read it all anyway - I just have to bang my head against the wall whenever he feels compelled to talk about Japan (which is far too often).