I disagree that there needs to be a word. It took me a long time to internalize this sage advice: You don’t have to participate in every argument to which you’re invited.
Nope. I think calling them out as liars right from the start is the best way to go. All that other stuff you bring up? Just another “It doesn’t completely do the job instantly in a spectacular manner, so it shouldn’t be done at all” excuse to do nothing.
There’s a meme for this. I don’t think you’ll ever find a single, good word for the concept.
That may make you feel good. But what effect does it have in the overall scheme of things?
I recall the Washington quote: “Government is not eloquence. It is not reason. It is Force”.
And your solution is…?
Walk away from a battle, and see what happens.
Back at you: your ‘solution’ is?
WTF??
I gave my response, so no “back at you”. If what I propose doesn’t do it for you, what does?
If you want to engage in political debate on message boards or other forums, it’s your prerogative. I just don’t think it achieves anything. Let’s drop this.
“No, that ain’t it either.”
Gotcha.
I have no idea what you are quoting. I think I’m done with this thread, it doesn’t seem to be going anywhere useful.
Douglas Adams would have assigned a British place name.
How about:
“You don’t want a debate, you just want to Largue”
“This is just Talkin Fell”
“This is just Talke Pits”
No, he’s an early stage boomer. A fifties guy as opposed to a sixties guy.
Extremely early boomer, late silent generation by six months.
Exactly. I prefer “Well, then, you’re an idiot.” But calling them a liar is admittedly more direct.
The ASL sign for “Done” always works for me, to shut down some argument I’m not gonna deal with.
Both hands spread fingers, hand forward you and turn the hands facing outward with a push-out if you’re really serious.
And walk away. Stops all arguments.
Shouting louder and louder has been the only Democratic strategy for the past 8+ years. Do you really think the problem is that they still aren’t shouting loud enough?
Perhaps not the actual words so much as the tone of voice, but “Yeah, right” could fit in quite neatly. Or indeed “Whatever….”
In Thomas Berger’s Little Big Man, when the Cheyenne had tired of someone’s oratory they’d say “I have heard you.”
Similar to de Gaulle’s “Je vous ai compris,” which translates to "I have understood you,” said to the French Algerians right before he abandoned them.
That was of course why he abandoned them: he had indeed understood them.
Reminds me of Clem Attlee (the immediately post-WW2 prime minister) who was famously terse, and replied to one letter from a bunch of discontented MPs urging him to resign, with “Thank you for your letter - contents duly noted”.