There's Rioting in Our Streets

D’oh! :smack: Yes, perhaps I should have. Sorry about that. But the main page is rather businesslike. You’d think it really is just some restaurant fare and karaoke fun with some cute chicks until you delve into it a little further. Well, the first link anyway.

In today’s newspaper, there’s a photo of her and the new deputy commerce minister being welcomed on their first day on the job this week with a bunch of flowers by the ministry permanent secretary. I swear it looks like the permanent secretary is whispering something out the side of his mouth to her, like maybe: “Tell Noi I said hello and that I enjoyed the soapie last week.”

The big red-shirt rally is scheduled for this weekend. Word is Thaksin is PISSED OFF and trying to gather as many as he can into Bangkok. That’s why it was postponed from last weekend; they want more time to get more people in. I’d be very careful about going to major venues in the city for New Year’s countdown; I still remember the blasts of two years ago, and I have no doubt myself who was responsible for those.

Okay, we’re back to rioting. :rolleyes: The red-shirt pro-Thaksin anti-PAD people have made good on their promise. They are at this moment as I type this besieging parliament in a bid to halt the new government’s reading of it’s policy statement, which by law must be done within 15 days of being sworn in. That makes the deadline January 7. See here. And BBC television just reported they have succeeded for today; the reading of the statement has been postponed. Not sure how many protesters are there; I think BBC said “thousands.”

In related news, the International Herald Tribune is reporting that all of the trouble has resulted in Thailand’s worst tourist slump in decades. See here.

And one more story on how Thai tourism has taken a hit.

<cynic> With demand low, supply is temporarily over-swollen, which will drive down prices. Time for a discount vacation! Thanks for your suffering, Thailand! </cynic>

I talked about this a bit with my very respectable Thai FIL this past week during Christmas at SIL’s house. In a very polite way he said that rural Thai folks, actually most Thai folks, are uneducated and ignorant and will be led around by the nose by whoever has money. He seemed very sad about it. My MIL likes to go back and visit family. He’d prefer to stay here where the air is clean and he can play tennis or golf in peace.

“Ignorant” is such a harsh word, but I cannot deny that there is some truth in that. Most Thais know nothing of the world beyond their country’s borders, not even about immediate neighbors like Cambodia or Burma. To most Thais, people in those countries are not Thai and thus not worth caring about. The poor education system here is partly to blame. It is unusual for even educated Thais ever to read a book after their school days, even once in their life, and for school they’ll generally skim enough to get along. That’s one reason books are so expensive here, they’re a luxury item that only “those rich foreigners” are interested in. Yes, it is sad.

But back to the rioting. The red shirts, while still numbering in the thousands, are quite fewer in number so far than the yellow shirts. It’s thought that Thaksin may not be able to afford to pay for protesters like he used to. He has a couple of billion US dollars frozen by the courts in bank accounts here that he cannot get at. The UK may or may not have frozen another $4 billion; rumors abound, and the British government has refused to confirm or deny. One local newspaper headline over the weekend facetiously speculated that Thaksin may be down to his last $500 million. But he is feeling a financial strain at this point, and I’m sure it’s true he cannot pay protesters what he once could. If he gets a reputation as a tightwad, then his supporters will start abandoning him in droves.

I received this message from the US Embassy:

“American citizens traveling to or residing in Thailand during this holiday season are reminded that bombings have occurred in the country, including Bangkok specifically, during the New Year’s celebratory events in past years. Given Thailand’s experience with violence during this time of year and the currently dynamic political environment, Americans should remain vigilant of their surroundings at all times and exercise caution in areas of large public gatherings. American citizens are encouraged to avoid large public crowds whenever possible.”

By violence at this time “in past years,” they really mean only New Year’s Eve 2006, two years ago. They make it sound like this is common for the New Year’s period, but it was only that one that had bombs go off. Several people killed. Honestly, I expect something this year, but the wife and I shall be safely ensconced by a friend’s pond out by his house up in the Northeast.

BBC just carried a live report from Bangkok. Seems the prime minister will try to read the policy statement today (Tuesday) from the Foreign Minisry instead of parliament. That’s apparently legal, but unfortunately the Foreign Ministry is not far from parliament, and the protesters plan just to shift over there. I don’t understand why the PM can’t just broadcast it from his home if need be, but that’s the law. And we all know how much Thailand respects the law. :rolleyes:

Oh, and this article about how the protests have reversed is interesting. I especially like this part:

“A source said they thought the number of protesters would shrink amid hot temperature and sunlight. Moreover, with the New Year coming protesters may prefer to go home and celebrate their holidays so the protest could end soon.”

Back in town. No untoward incidents of violence on New Year’s Eve after all, which is good. Unfortunately, there was a pub fire caused by an inside pyrotechnic display, which sounds odd to me but is apparently both done and hard to do. The death toll rose to 62 yesterday (Saturday) the last I heard. 243 injured. Santika Pub. Ironically, it was the pub’s last night before moving to another location, so the theme of the party was “Goodbye, Santika.” :rolleyes: The police have ruled out arson, because the club’s insurance expired four months ago (another :rolleyes:). I guess they didn’t want to reinsure with just four months left. Santika seems to have been operating illegally in a number of ways, which is par for the course.

The police have come out with a list of charges the pub owner will face, but really, no one expects anything to come of it. Supposedly, the owner belongs to a high-society family with connections to the police. All of the club owners here, indeed anyone in the entertainment industry, have some sort of connection to the police. Safety issues are not a major concern here, and whenever an incident like this happens, it’s very difficult to bring anyone to justice. I expect the owner will just walk. Sad, but that’s simply the way it is over here.

Stories here, here and here. Many foreigners among the dead and injured. The second link above is an odd one in that it relates how lots of teenagers showed up at the scene eager to take pictures at 2am this morning, because of a belief that the dead will return to the scene of their demise after three days. They want pictures of ghosts, and any weird line in the photo they’ll believe is one.

That was big news even here in the states. Tragic.

Just back from Phucket after a 5 day live aboard dive trip on the Andaman Sea.
Seems that even the tumbleweed choosed another place to spend the holidays…

Just a small update. Yesterday (Tuesday) in the North, which is considered Thaksin territory, a prominent elder Democrat was pelted with eggs and water bottles by the red shirts and had to cut his appearance short. Story here.

The red shirts are now threatening a massive protest in front of the Asean Summit site next month. (Asean = Association of Southeast Asian Nations, quite a useless entity.) But they just don’t seem to have the steam of the yellow shirts, and it’s becoming more widely known that a certain quartet of army generals are strongly behind the new Democrat-led government. Things are looking more and more dire for Thaksin, the bastard.

Don’t fret about eggs, worry about Molotov Cocktails.

Well, it looks like it may be a good year for the chicken farmers. Yesterday (Thursday), in response to the egging in the North of a prominent Democrat, and maybe one or two other such incidents, at a red-shirt rally in the Northeast some presumed yellow shirts donned some red shirts to mingle with the crowd and then pelted the red-shirt speakers with eggs. Story here. I especially like the first sentence, the part where it says: “… an incident in which people in red shirts threw eggs at speakers wearing red shirts during a campaign rally …” For some reason, that tickles me.

Well, it looks like Thai tourism may be bouncing back much sooner than anyone thought. Story here. That is good, of course, but on the other hand, it will probably further feed the already-revalent view that they can do just about anything they want and the tourists will still come here.

And a good piece on Phuket bouncing back is here.

Well, balls! Here we go again. :smack:

The red shirts – the supporters of Thaksin and the previous two governments – have finally gotten themselves organized enough to lay their own siege to Government House. They broke through police lines last night to reach its fence but apparently fell back to their original venue of Sanam Luang, a large park in the middle of Old Bangkok (the former execution site in fact, back in the days when they beheaded the prisoners with one swifet sword slice from behind) after posting four-point demands on a gate. Stories here and here.

I suspect they cannot lay a sustained siege, because quite simply, Thaksin does not have enough money now to pay for it. “Supporters” here do not come free, not for any side. There are reports that because of several of his bank accounts being frozen, Thaksin is literally down to his last US$500 million. I don’t know how true that is; could be just snarkiness. But who knows? The poor baby may have to do without the chocolate mints on his pillow in the five-star hotels he keeps hiding out in.

Thaksin’s old Thai Rak Thai Party, which is now banned, keeps popping up with a new name. The People Power Party it was, then that got banned. Now it’s the Pheua Thai Party (For Thais Party). There were complaints among the citizenry in the last couple of elections that Thaksin’s agents in the field were unable to pay individual voters as much as before. Although it’s not believed this was the main reason for the party’s loss in the elections, it was definitely a contributing factor.

Oh, hell.

The government is already dismissing most of the red shirts’ demands as impossible to fulfill. The red shirts have said if the demands are not met, they’ll be back in 15 days.

Story here.

No more rioting yet, but there’s a good article in the Far Eastern Economic Review on the man responsible for all the trouble to begin with: Thailand’s Stubborn Fugitive.

Still no more rioting, but the red shirts have camped out near Government House, to pressure the present government into resigning. But try as they might, they’re pretty much a spent force.

Still, travelers, especially backpackers, are being cautioned about the situation here.

And in case you do get caught up in something, this here will tell you how to avoid making a political fashion statement.

And some promising news is that Thailand may ask China to extradite Thaksin, the fugitive ousted prime minister behind all the trouble. He’s due to address the Foreign Correspondents’ Club in Hong Kong next Monday. There is an extradition treaty between Thailand and China, but it does not cover Hong Kong. Still, they feel there may be a way around that. Story here.

Not much in the way of rioting again … yet. But here is a good Times of London article on our present prime minister. It gives some idea of the tensions simmering just below the surface. It feels as if everyone here is waiting for the situation to blow up again, which I believe there is a good chance of happening before the year is out. The economic problems are certainly not helping either.

There have been small pockets of trouble around the country by partisans of both camps. Some government officials have actually found themselves bombarded by eggs and other projectiles on trips upcountry.

Eggs are good.
Eggs are fine.

Grenades, on the other hand…be glad it’s eggs.