They shoot horses, don't they? Aus Immigration Procedures.

In Australia presently, there is a controversial situation where an Australian citizen, Cornelia Rau, was wrongfully incarcerated in one of our infamous Detention Centres (designed to hold illegal immigrants) for many months before her true identity became known.

Cornelia suffers from a mental illness, and when she was first apprehended by the authorities gave them a false name, and told them she was from Germany on a visitors visa. They duly contacted the Immigration Dept, who bunged her into Baxter Detention Centre until she could be deported.

Except Cornelia wasn’t from Germany…she had absconded from a psychiatric hospital in Sydney, and the hospital had issued alerts to the police and other bodies to inform them of her identity. She had police and psychiatric records not only from Australia, but involving Interpol as well apparently.

Except Cornelia ended up in the Baxter Detention Centre. And whlie there, she displayed overtly psychotic symptoms that should have lead the staff to inquiring as to her medical status. Unfortunately the Australian Government has tendered out the detention facilities to private contractors, who seem less inclined to cater for the various medical needs of their inmates. So, Cornelia went completely crazy, and the management didn’t give a shit.

Until it hit the papers a couple of weeks ago, when a journo-advocate published Cornelia’s case in the daily rag. And her family recognized her description. And they claimed her as their own, wondering why for all these months there had been no word as to her whereabouts.

Cornelia is certifiably crazy, there is no doubt. What is frightening is that crazy people can be locked up in detention in Australia, with little or no recourse to medical assistance for months or years on end. She is lucky in one sense, that she is actually an Aus citizen who now has complete access to the finest psychiatric care the world has to offer. Better late than never I guess. :rolleyes:

But what about those poor fuckers who are still regarded as illegals, who have been locked up for years pending their asylum applications? Many of them have GONE batshit crazy in the interim, even if they were healthy beforehand. They’ve committed no crime but to apply for asylum in Australia. We let our murderers out of prison earlier than we release refugees.

I didn’t vote for Howard. I think his policies suck big time. I just wish now that he could muster up the balls to say sorry to the Rau family for his governmental fuckup.

He hasn’t and he won’t.

He’s a tenant of the lowest eschelons of the algae layers that occupy the scum division of the bottom of the sea. I’d say “Fuck 'im”, but with such a gelatinous nature, it would be eminently unsatisfying for the fucker.

Grrrrrrrrrr

Why horses?

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…Unfortunately the Australian Government has tendered out the detention facilities to private contractors, who seem less inclined to cater for the various medical needs of their inmates. So, Cornelia went completely crazy, and the management didn’t give a shit…

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Not sure if you listen to Hack (Triple J, 5:30 weekdays), but Steve Cunnane (sp?) was interviewing Amanda Vanstone last week over this very issue and raised an interesting point in regards to the above.

Because the detention centres are run by private companies, there are pretty hefty penalties involved for them when things go wrong, and Steve Cunnane asked the question of Amanda Vanstone about whether or not these companies running detention centres are more likely to attemtp cover-ups in situations like the above to avoid these penalties?

It’s not just a fuck up by the Detention Centre administrators (although they are culpable in not providing psych assistance to mentally-impaired inmates of their facilities) but also a complete fuck up between the coppers, the Immigration Department, the Health Commission, Interpol, Centrelink, Baxter, and the Departments of Community Services.

How can SO many bodies screw up so badly? And why isn’t an apology forthcoming?? I noticed that Costello said sorry on Howard’s behalf today, but it still doesn’t ring true unitl the PM says it himself.

Just say SORRY Howard…it doesn’t hurt, it makes a man of you.

Broadly Kambuckta as you know my views are firmly anti-Howard. But… (you knew there was a “but” coming, didn’t you :))

When I first read a thumbnail sketch of the Rau situation, I happily leapt to the conclusion that this was a classic example of good ole Aussie xenophobia, combined with current post 9/11 paranoia.

But when I read the details I ended up feeling just a wee bit sorry for (at the least) the police and immigration people who handled this person. I handle the odd immigration matter and I know that people trying to get into Oz unlawfully tend to give false names, change their story constantly, change details about what they are doing where they are doing it, how they came to be where they are, where they’re from, what their visa status actually is blah blah blah, in an effort to avoid being nailed.

So a person who does these things (as she did) because they are batshit crazy, unfortunately they do inadvertantly make themselves rather closely resemble a classic unlawful non-citizen (to use the 1984 speak of the immigration world).

Yes to all your comments about lack of proper mental health care, but I think you cast your net of blame a little over wide.

Well I feel much the same coming from the opposite direction so to speak. As an ex psych nurse I know that in my day when Sydney had 4 large psych hospitals people like Cornelia Rau were routinely dropped off at the local hospital in the first instance. If she was unable to care for herself, she would be scheduled, stabilised on medication and brought before a magistrate to decide her disposition.

In those days standard procedure for police was to simply deliver the bat-shit crazy to psychiatric care. Now Cornelia Rau, hard though it may be to believe it, is lucky - sho could be living unknown on a railway platform, behind a church or God knows where. That is our new standard care for the bat-shit crazy.