asahi
July 10, 2018, 1:38am
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Ashtura:
The “Muslim ban” - covers maybe 12.5% of Muslims. Pretty innefectual, and interestingly came from a list of countries the Obama Administration listed as high terrorism risks. If we’re going for a “muslim ban”, surely we can do better than that?
It targets “brown people”? Most of the world is “brown” or at least non-white (at least 5 billion people), and the ban covers a pretty tiny amount of “brown” people out there. Again, pretty ineffectual, if the aim is to go after “brown” people.
You think Kennedy’s reason to retire during the Trump administration , is because he was disgusted by Trump policy ? Are you high? You do realize he was in the* majority opinion* on the travel ban ruling, right? So, he “threw up his hands” and retired because he didn’t want to continue making decisions* he thought were correct*? This is most nonsensical thing I’ve seen in a while.
Trump “rescinded” zero tolerance after hearing outcry? And something is wrong with that? Yeah, totally Hitleresque. Was zero tolerance policy a good decision? No. Did he listen to the dissent? Yes. Dictators don’t do that .
On the enlisted front. They came up with a grand total of* fourty* people that were discharged. Out of* thousands* of immigrant enlistees. Yeah, endemic problem there. I’m sure Trump himself hand combed through the enlistees and ordered them out for no reason whatsoever. I’m sure zero immigrants were ever discharged under Obama. Jesus, what a non-story.
Oh, and just you we’re clear on the naturalization front: You want people here who committed fraud to get here? Just checking.
Look, I don’t like Trump. And I will concede that in his heart he probably isn’t a fan of “brown people.” But there’s a difference between that and wanting to put them in death camps. Seriously, these comparisons to Nazi Germany are just friggin ridiculous and makes the leftist that espouse that look like drama queens. It’s like people that compare the US with A Handmaid’s Tale. Get real. Look, when they round up US citizens en masse and put them in internment camps, I’ll compare Trump to FDR, and I’ll do more than protest. But I still won’t compare him to Hitler. But that isn’t going to happen, I know it, you know it too. And if you really don’t, seriously, you need to check yourself.
We may not be living in Nazi Germany, but the parallels between what is happening right now and what has happened in other collapsed democracies are real, not imagined. One of the great dangers to a democracy like ours is polarization, and one tactic that creates this polemic is race baiting.
Hot off the presses re: family detention: [paraphrased] Judge to ICE - “you made your bed in 1997, and now you’d damn well better lie in it.”
Shodan
July 10, 2018, 12:40pm
83
I can’t remember who made the quote, but it was something like “economists have predicted eleven of the last two recessions”. Same sort of thing - liberals on the Dope have predicted six of the last zero fascist takeovers.
Regards,
Deeg
July 10, 2018, 5:37pm
84
Or comparing political leaders to Hitler (or Communists).
Shodan:
First they came for the illegal immigrants, and I said nothing, because I was not an illegal immigrant.
Then they came for those who obtained their citizenship under false pretenses, and I said nothing, because I had not obtained my citizenship under false pretenses.
Then everything was fine.
Regards,
My response to the OP’s question, “What is we gonna do?”
I’m not sure what associated statutes there are, but the USA is signatory to the the 1967 Refugee Protocol.
Bricker:
Do you happen to recall who won the 1997 World Series?
(a) the Cleveland Indians, who won three games of seven scoring a total of 44 runs across those seven games?
(b) the Florida Marlins, who won four games scoring a total of 37 runs across those seven games
Yes, Bricker, democratic legitimacy is just like baseball. And we all know that no one ever complains about baseball. :rolleyes:
No. Burden of proof generally falls on an argued position, not on the person arguing it.
And he’s not a “General,” he’s an “Attorney General.” The word general is an adjective in that case.
HurricaneDitka:
The flaw in this theory is that, while Republicans may be able to call a Constitutional Convention with 34 states, they need 38 states to ratify any amendments that come out of said convention. Do you really believe 38 states would ratify an amendment ending birthright citizenship?
I don’t find it implausible that the Repubs could capture 6 more legislatures via gerrymandering, voter suppression, anonymous campaign contributions at the local level, voter ID and other activities conducted because they know their ideas won’t persuade either majorities or credentialed experts.
Shodan:
First they came for the illegal immigrants, and I said nothing, because I was not an illegal immigrant.
Then they came for those who obtained their citizenship under false pretenses, and I said nothing, because I had not obtained my citizenship under false pretenses.
Then everything was fine.
Regards,
I invite all my white citizen brothers to come to Iowa and help bring in the soybean crop. Oh wait, we don’t have a buyer anymore
And then they came for the victims of domestic violence seeking asylum …
*And then they came for the spouses of immigrant workers who also wanted to work … *
Jansi Kumar immigrated from India the United States because of a promise. She would be allowed to work. But that could change for Kumar and thousands like her under the new administration's immigration agenda.
Est. reading time: 8 minutes
What’s clear about these stories is a growing pattern of undermining immigration of all kinds, legal or otherwise.
AK84
July 17, 2018, 4:51pm
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Relax dude. You are probably pretty low on the shit list.
You’ve never watched a Congressional hearing???
Members of Congress routinely address Attorneys General, Inspectors General, and the Surgeon General as “General”.
They’re coming …
The administration is instituting deportation proceedings immediately against H1B holders who apply for renewal, and whose renewals are denied for any reason.
A friend of my relative who has been working here for some time just moved from Boston to DC. His H1B renewal was rejected for no good reason and he has been ordered to pack up his family and leave the country in two weeks.
They’re coming …
The administration has announced plans to reject naturalization applications for any legal resident wanting to become a citizen who lives in a household where anyone has accepted government assistance, including purchasing health insurance in the ACA exchanges (Obamacare).
They’re coming … Who’s next?
That guy voted for Trump. He deserves it.
Then they came for U.S. citizens born near the southern border …
U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question
Shodan
August 30, 2018, 2:11pm
99
From your cite -
The government alleges that from the 1950s through the 1990s, some midwives and physicians along the Texas-Mexico border provided U.S. birth certificates to babies who were actually born in Mexico. In a series of federal court cases in the 1990s, several birth attendants admitted to providing fraudulent documents.
Based on those suspicions, the State Department began during Barack Obama’s administration to deny passports to people who were delivered by midwives in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley. The use of midwives is a long-standing tradition in the region, in part because of the cost of hospital care.
So apparently you are correct - this is a slippery slope. Not started on the slope by Trump, but slippery nonetheless.
Regards,
…to be clear:
The Washington Post article got things wrong. It didn’t begin during the Obama administration. It ended during the Obama administration. Apparently the article has been corrected: but I only get a couple of Washington Post articles a month, so I’m not going to waste a view going to check.
