They're really gonna do it again. Shutdown 2015!

Nope - contractors get shut out, too. Union or not, if you’re paid under the wrong type of funding, or you aren’t declared essential, then you don’t work during a shutdown.

Let’s try a variation on that, with changes in bold, to see how much sense that makes:

Only a tiny fraction of the U.S. population is gay. The rest of us don’t know people who are gay.

And they’re not, you know, our *own *people anyway, right? It could never happen to us, we’d never need it ourselves, so fuck 'em, knowhamean?

I imagine wait staff fall in the hole left by failing to expand Medicaid. So no. (Depending on the state you live in.)

But I guess that’s what you meant. Hm.

That’s enough, right there.

No shit? Isn’t that kinda .002 on the Insult Richter Scale? Unless you happen to be a pizza delivery boy?

Now with a threat of Shutdown at a 75% chance. With pestilence and famine coming out of the Northeast at twelve miles per hour…

:sigh:

This is a painful demonstration of what is going on in the right wing info sphere, an echo chamber that has transformed the tampered tapes from Planned Parenthood into a “reality” that is showing how inept many Republicans are nowadays, useless on figuring out that one should not swallow their own propaganda.

When counting those “on Obamacare”, don’t forget to count all those people who have insurance now, but who didn’t before, but who thought they had insurance. If you pay your premiums every month without a problem, but then as soon as you get sick and need insurance, your insurance company discovers that you had an undeclared hangnail back in sixth grade and you’re not eligible, then you never actually had insurance, you just had a scam. And if you had that plan but stayed healthy and didn’t end up needing it, you still didn’t have insurance.

Yeah, those of us who don’t know anyone on Obamacare barely heard about those glitches. I’ll bet it made nary a paper byline or blog post during that time (my memory is failing), nor was it trumpeted by the right wing media echo chamber to attack Obama. Wonder why they didn’t repeat the failings *ad nauseum *leading up to the mid-terms, to prove that Obamacare was failing?:confused::confused:
Missed opportunity, for sure.

Less than nine and a half days until the money runs out!

Let’s just sit here with our thumbs up our butts and blame Obama!

I wonder if the House will even be able to pass a continuing resolution of any sort, whether it defunds Planned Parenthood or not. That may be above their level of competence.

There’s a theory that Democrats could join to pass a clean bill without riders, but that Boehner would be risking a vote of no confidence shortly after that.

Yes, there’s a large enough coalition available, between the Democrats and the sane-minority Republican faction, to pass anything sane. But Boehner puts keeping his speakership ahead of the national interest.

I actually predicted in 2014 that the current crop of Republicans would make both Boehner **and **McConnell cry.

Boehner was a gimme on that one.

I don’t think that’s a fair criticism at all. He’s set aside the Hastert Rule of seeking a majority of the Majority to pass controversial legislation in the past, and it seems that he’s willing to do so again in the future. For example, he pushed a bill through the House that actually raised taxes on the wealthy with only 85 members of his caucus supporting him, and several times he’s moved debt limit increases – which prevented the United States from defaulting on its national debt – with only a couple dozen Republicans supporting him.

It isn’t clear, however, whether he will do that this time. But insinuating that he’s only out for himself, and doesn’t take risks by alienating a large number of Republicans he’s supposed to be leading, just isn’t true.

OK, it’s only most of the time. Fair enough.

I just looked it up: it appears that Boehner and Nancy Pelosi have ignored the Hastert Rule the same amount of times over the same period of time, at least according to Wikipedia.

Now, that doesn’t factor in whether you believe Pelosi put her speakership ahead of the national interest most of the time…

One thing that crossed my mind this morning that’s mostly been forgotten is why the 2013 shutdown came to an end: we were about to hit the debt ceiling in the third week of October, and that’s what finally forced the GOP leaders to come to the table.

This year, we apparently aren’t due to hit the debt ceiling until sometime in November, so if the wingnuts in the House want to go all Green Lantern on us and say, ‘we can win this one if we only have the willpower,’ we could have quite a long shutdown indeed. Ol’ Charlie’s stole the handle, and all that.

I don’t think it’s likely that we’ll have a shutdown that goes into November, but there’s nothing stopping it from happening the way there was the last time. My sense of things is that (a) there will be a shutdown, and either (b) it will be resolved in about a week or less, or © it will go longer than the last one.

I’m rooting for (b). I need a small vacation, but it don’t look like rain.