Things that seemed funny at the time but you couldn't get away with them now

Ah, yes, The TV Show. I watched that one all the time as a kid! Didn’t we all?

Um, just which show are we talking about here, again?

I think he means Amos And Andy

Obviously, Doc. :grinning:

Oh, the post 46 posts before yours. Got it!

Yes, the Op. who is now banned for trolling.

If someone gets drunk, behaves foolishly, and then is mocked for it - well, they pretty much had it coming.

I think that’s ok because the character of Monty Burns is consistently played as racist, xenophobic, elitist, and basically evil in every way.

The character of Apu OTOH “can’t get away with” because he is voiced by Hank Azaria affecting a bad Indian accent.

In the movie Weird Science, the “mutant biker” scene at the end where ultimately Gary and Wyatt pull out .357 Magnum, threaten the bikers with it, calls them “faggots” (one of the bikers obviously intended to be the gay character Wez from Road Warrior), and then dangerously waves the gun around the crowd until it accidently goes off. I feel like there’s a lot in that scene that would be done very differently now.

In fact, there’s a lot of stuff in Weird Science you couldn’t get away with these days. Typical 80s stuff like the trip to the “rough black neighborhood” to hang out with negative black stereotypes. The portrayal of Wyatt and Gary as “nerds”, such that their being bullied and ostracized is acceptable, even expected. Pretty much the core concept of creating an artificial fantasy woman that they “own” (although Lisa does have her own agency and often goes directly against the boy’s wishes).

And when all the men who kissed Einhorn started puking when they learn her secret complete with The Crying Game playing in the background. I suspect that’s part of what makes it so offensive.

That sounds like something a teenage boy might wish for without really thinking through the consequences. Thinking through the consequences being something teenage boys aren’t really good at to begin with. Despite being their creation, Wyatt and Gary don’t really know what to do with Lisa and certainly by the end of the movie have abandoned any idea of owning her. I think the basic concept is fine given that Lisa is her own person and Wyatt and Gary don’t give her shit about that.

That still seems to be a usable theme. Look at Ex Machina, Westworld, and Humans.

Revenge of the Nerds has a ton of stuff that wouldn’t fly today: Secretly filming girls undressing. Panty raids. Games, sanctioned by the college no less, that encourage excessive drinking. Selling pies containing nude photos of a woman, obtained from when they secretly filmed her earlier, without her consent. Tricking the jock’s girlfriend into having sex with a nerd she never would have had sex with had she known his identity.

Come to think of it there are a bunch of teen comedies from that era that treat spying on nude women as if it were just good, clean, teenage hijinks.

yes, but these days, the theme is played for the ethical ickiness/horror it implies, and not for the “boys will be boys” comedy trope that it used to be.

Re Weird Science

I feel that it’s, besides a lot of other things, a coming of age story. At the start of the film, Gary and Wyatt think ‘scoring with a hot chick’ will turn them from boys to men. Instead, they eventually learn that women are people to, that they have to take responsibility and stand up for what they believe in, and it’s these lessons that turn them into men.

But I feel that theme was there in Weird Science. As you and others have noted, Gary and Wyatt started with the idea of having an artificial woman they could control but the woman ended up having her own independent agency. And that’s the same theme we see in Ex Machina, Westworld, and Humans. The only difference is the idea was played as a comedy rather than as a drama or a thriller - but that’s a difference in tone not theme.

I haven’t actually seen Weird Science, but that’s exactly the thing this thread was getting at, isn’t it? Something “funny” that’s no longer funny. If it has become drama, it’s not funny anymore.

Maybe it’s a matter of interpretation. I don’t feel the idea was portrayed as something the characters “got away with” back in 1985. Gary and Wyatt wanted to build an obedient sexbot but their effort backfired on them. The humor came from their failure not from their success.

Compare that to another example that’s been given; Revenge of the Nerds, which was released a few months earlier. In that movie, Lewis succeeded in his attempt to have sex with Betty by impersonating her boyfriend. There was no implication in the movie that Lewis’s actions was wrong or should be condemned and he faced no consequences for what he did. That was an example of a character getting away with something and having the fact he did so portrayed as humorous.

Yes, the boys in Weird Science failed in their attempt, but I don’t think there’s really any implication that they were wrong to attempt it, was there? There’s a difference between “there was no chance you’d succeed”, and “you shouldn’t have tried”.

I disagree. One of the film’s many lessons is ‘women are people too and don’t exist just to serve you’

Another lesson, be very glad you don’t have elephant balls

I gotta admit, I misread the middle title as “Waterworld” and had an absolute complete W.T.F moment.

On Golden Girls there are several references to Phil. He is the son of the Estelle Getty character. Most of comments (as i remember) were jokes about him wearing dresses. .