Thinking about the cat...

I can’t say for sure that he didn’t, but I can find nothing like that quote on any Google-indexed page. That’s strong enough evidence for me to chalk this up in the OP’s “wrong” column.

See, now I thought the Schrodinger saying God playing marbles bit was a joke. Doesn’t everyone know it was actually Newton (in a bit of amazing prescience) who said “God plays marbles”?

Watch you don’t need surgery to remove your tongue from your cheek.

You know, I enjoy science immensely and I love religion as well; I find them both deep and fascinating subject-matter- I’ve just never decided at any one point that there are minds on the planet or otherwise to play with the two as to make science THE religion. I realize I am walking into a room full of all-believing scientists as well and know my words must either fall on deaf ears or those not listening…

There is no doubt in my mind science is a powerful force of many dedicated minds who converse and conjecture to one another in order to mentally create a more tangible model of theory and then plug this result in an extremely powerful computer which science in large part helped make possible and because of this people everywhere can benefit or can feel it’s effects- like a marriage for better or worse. This of course also commits scientists to becoming (if they are good) extremely responsible people due to the nature of their work.

I can tell you all now I am not the mind many of you are nor possess the various letters that may or may not be in front of or behind your names. They will not make you safer from anything another living next-door is subjected to. What it may gain you is seat reservation especially if you hit pay-dirt enough times. This might also create the “vested”-like quality of job security that even great minds pursue. There are those who believe “everything can be explained through scientific research”
To start addressing the thread, start at the source… all of this over a dead cat… wow… science, the force it has become is founded on children… (don’t think I’m not enjoying the outrage you’re feeling right now :wink: ) Yes children, more specifically the “sense” of curiousity that drives us from the begining to ask questions and explore the woods in the back yard “where does it go?” “what lives there”… on and on until one day computers are normal things and we are tossing the dead cat issue around… Science my OP friend is just a mask for the people that are the real vehicle for it… science and all theory build upon a foundation, usually unmerited or not fully utilized research of another and is therefore only as good as its’ source a human being… even if there were no God my friend science would not make us or the computers we build "perfect " only more accurate.

I must agree with the various posters as well on the fact that topic-wise you are all over the spectrum from cats- to parallel Universes, alien life, intelligence of unmentioned aliens, fate and free-will… Just gauging by what I see there, you have great passion and potential, yet require more humility and restraint in order to clearly (and unpretentiously! ) express your views. Respecting others at very least in foreign territory is only common sense.

As before Science is a powerful force. It is born out of our desire to break current boundaries of convention and better our world, it is well intentioned as I believe you and many others to be because it attempts to answer questions, many derived from previous answers (really if you can get paid for it, it really isits’ own job security, huh? :stuck_out_tongue: ) But “God”… are my eyes seeing this correctly?, that you are attempting to explain anyelement of such an enormous number of people’s religion and with of all things…science?? Science can explain many things… everyone knows this. What science can not measure is the very “manifestion” (someone said earlier) of what a heart is. I’m sure you can define it for me, webster- but this is not an organ or just a definition. Science does not have units for love or happiness, contentment or the warmth that seems to happen in helping another …there is no measurement for these things nor would I be interested in them if they existed. The point to life is living, the point of science is being that curious kid you once were with all the benefits of being an adult & getting a pay check, the point of “God” can not have a point…

You can put this into words, but would you really like to risk that? God not existing would not settle this silly back and forth conjecture between the logical and the traditional… God is simply necessary even for just the idea that there is greater, but for most believers can and is many different things that is better suited for other forums.

For future reference though, assuming you were speaking about the same God I believe in, please don’t call my God “it” … :confused:

I don’t think any of this has anything to do with Schrœdinger’s Cat. At least Eilunid had that going for her. When you make off-topic posts, you make the Baby Jesus cry.

okay. “she”.

And on Christmas, for goodness’ sake.

It appears that paragraphs may be necessary but are certainly not sufficient to effect clear communication.

:eek: …sorry was addressing the OP, not the dead cat…

“Schrodinger’s cat” is a false paradox as the* cat herself* is an observer. If it was coloured fluids or something non- alive, then it would be a paradox. But add the cat- and you might as well add a scientist in th box with the cat… or instead of the cat.

Can we stick people who conflate quantum mechanics and Eastern mysticism in a box with a goodly quantity of hydrocyanic acid?

No, no geiger counter or hammer or anything. Just the acid.

“God not only plays dice with the universe, but He cheats, too.” :smiley:

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