Thinking Like a Conservative

This explains a lot about how RW Americans and the rest just seem to talk past each other in different languages. It’s a series of blog posts at The Nation by Rick Perlstein, who is also the author of *Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus, Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of a Nation,* and The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan, all of which I highly recommend, doorstoppers though they are.

Pay extra special attention to Part Five, it sums it all up.

Thinking Like a Conservative (Part One): Mass Shootings and Gun Control

(Part Two): Biding Time on Voting Rights

(Part Three): On Shutting Down Government (dated 09/30/13)

(Part Four): Goalpost-Moving

(Part Five): Epistemology and Empathy:

“The Communist and the Catholic are alike in believing that an opponent cannot be both honest and intelligent.”

– George Orwell

RWs too, apparently.

(Part Six): Government Dependency

“The only reason you disagree with me is because you do not understand me” is not an argument limited to Conservatives, I’m afraid.

There is certainly a strong element of “Everyone knows what I’m saying is true but I’m the only one brave enough to say it” in some conservatives. And, as Czarcasm pointed out, in some liberals as well. You can’t argue with that kind of narcissism.

Well, it ain’t a symmetrical picture, is it? Conservatives and liberals seem to think differently – and it might even be a biological/neurological difference. See here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Still, I’m sure a person’s cultural background (class, ethnic, religious, regional, and generational) is a much more important factor in his or her political views than anything genetic or neurological.

And . . . there might be a much simpler and much uglier explanation. See The Reactionary Mind, by Corey Robin.

I think Conservatives are likely to only listen to other Conservatives and thus come to their incorrect conclusions from a lack of information. Liberals on the other hand will take a much broader view of an issue before coming to their incorrect conclusions.

Or maybe it’s the other way round, but it doesn’t matter, ideology is the problem.

No-Ideology is the other side’s problem.

:smiley:

Really?

I post and debate on this board.

Where do you post and debate?

Exactly. Openly liberal boards such as DU don’t even allow conservative posters. They are banned without apology simply for expressing a conservative thought.

On the net, in Liberal strongholds like San Fran or DC and in Academia it’s the same: Liberals deliberately insulating themselves from any conservative opinions, and pushing them out like cancer when they show up.

Of course, conservatives do this sometimes too. I don’t run into many liberals at my gun club, for instance. But to claim that this is a uniquely Conservative trait is silly.

Some general commentary since I’m not seeing anything debate worthy. I’m wondering if there is any actual original thoughts being put forward from the OP. I see cut and paste link heavy text without much substance. The gist of what is there, that ideological folks think they are right and others are wrong being somehow unique to conservatives is laughable. The ideologies can be substituted in the passages and it would sound just about the same.

The links are generally worthless without a summary. Not sure if you’ve picked up on that yet.

I especially enjoy the explanation that conservatives just like violence and war. Like, duh, of course!

Let me try: *Have you ever noticed how liberals who say the most controversial things imaginable think no one actually disagrees with them?

They will admit that, yes, people might claim to disagree. But they will explain, if pressed, that those who do so are lying, or nuts, or utter the non-truths they utter out of a totalitarian will to power, or are poor benighted folks cowed or confused by those aforementioned totalitarians. (Which, of course, makes the person “finally” telling “the truth” a hero of bottomless courage.) Or the people who disagree are simply stupid as a tree stump. *

I do find article like the OP’s article fairly ironic: it seems to demonstrate exactly the sort of “my enemies can’t think honestly” thinking it criticizes in conservatives.

It’s like with religion – other denominations have their “interpretations” of the Bible, but ours just reads it for its plain meaning.

You’re missing the point, which Perlstein hammers home in every one of these posts: Liberals need to understand that conservatives think differently than they do.

Thinking Like a Conservative (Part One): Mass Shootings and Gun Control:

[shrug] That’s never a requirement here, is it?

That is the substance.

What the responses are essentially saying is that Perlstein refutes himself via his own article.

It’s funny how otherwise intelligent people can read stuff like the linked content in the OP and not see that it is the mirror equivalent of this kind of thing.

It isn’t thoughtful analysis. It is pablum designed to take dollars from credulous ideologues.

Just a brief note from a mod.

I’m game to let this continue here as there’s potential for a real debate. But if it turns into just a partisan bash-fest I’m sending it to the Pit to be Miller’s problem.

So let’s all play nice, shall we?

Well, at least it wasn’t Michael Lind this time.

I blame racism.

:confused:

You can see, can’t you, how this sort of thinking is not the “mirror equivalent” of Perlstein’s at all?

Nobody writes for The Nation for the money.

They are equivalent in this respect: it is a relatively smart person writing half-baked theories about “the other side” that have no real grounding in reality, but that appeal to people who think others with different political ideologies are fundamentally different and worse than they are.

I don’t know if Perlstein really believes that conservatives have, on average, less “intellectual imagination” than liberals, or if Coulter really believes that liberals are principally animated by a refusal to admit the existence of God–what I do know for sure is that these arguments are very entertaining for a certain kind of partisan and will do a good job for the author of securing a lucrative career in rallying the faithful.

I mean, where to even start with Perlstein? All he really offers is a bunch of silly anecdotes shoehorned into some preconceived narrative about how conservatives are stupid. He does precisely what he accuses conservatives of doing, utterly failing to understand their reasons for believing what they do or recognizing that reasonable people can disagree about something like the effectiveness of gun control.