This is disgusting....

So I’m in the market for a new pair of hiking boots and I’m cruising the web to view my options. At a certain companies website they offer helpful tips for wilderness survival.

“2. Where to get water? Animal eyes contain water which can be obtained by sucking them. Large fish have a reservoir of fresh water along their spine.”

Now to be fair to the company all the other advice they offered were things I learned in my Scouting days. Stuff like eating bugs and not drinking in large gulps if you are dehydrated. Of course among one of their other tips is “Birch Bark can be distilled to an oil which soothes skin irritations.”

I dunno, neither of these things sound like good tips for any situation most people will find themselves in. It just seemd rather silly and I thought to myself that I must post this mindless thing here.

Marc

See, this is one more reason why I avoid the great outdoors. I don’t ever want to be in a position of haveing to decide if I would rather die of thirst or suck an eyeball.

I’m kinda leaning toward dying of thirst…

Or you could just drink the water they’re swimming in. Geez.

Erroneous: The New Hero of Logic. Thank you for framing the question properly. Amen.

I think the key word was fresh water. As in not salty, because salty water tastes bad.

Salty water tastes bad and can kill you.

So can fresh water. For example, if you’ve foolishly handcuffed yourself to a 16-ton weight and then jumped into the deep end of the lake.

Something tells me an animal isn’t going to give up the water in their eyes easily.

Question:Why shouldn’t you gulp water when you’re dehydrated?

One way to get water in the desert is to have a large square piece of clear, heavy plastic with you. The kind you can get at a moving-and-packing store. In addition to the plastic, you will need a cup, a long plastic tube, a shovel (may be improvised) and a rock.

Dig a hole about a metre deep and a metre or so wide in the ground. Put the cup in the middle of it. Put the tube into the cup and leave the other end outside of the hole. Put the plastic sheet over the hole and pull it tight. Put sand around the edges to hold it in place and to seal the edges. Put a small stone in the middle of the sheet, over the cup. Water will evaporate from the ground and collect on the plastic sheet. It will naturally follow gravity to the weighted centre and drip into the cup. You can increase the amount of water by putting green vegetation into the hole around the cup, or even by urinating around the hole.

On the subject of desert survival, the ground is the hottest part of the desert. If you dig down a couple of feet it will be cooler. If you raise yourself up a couple of feet it will also be cooler. Stay in the shade. Work at night when the temperatures are cooler, and rest during the day to conserve water. Be aware of animals such as snakes, scorpions and black widow spiders. While the scorpions and spiders are usually not fatal, they can cause fever that can cause you to sweat and lose water and make you very sick. I wouldn’t suggest hunting venomous snakes, as they can be quick; but if you do manage to kill one their meat contains fluids (and blood). Be careful of the fangs, which can contain dangerous venom and can cause severe injury if you accidentally stick yourself.

Water can sometimes be found if you dig down into the inside curve of a wash. Also, dew may collect on plants.

Let people know where you are going and when you will be back. If you do not return, they should call authorities to initiate a search. “Make yourself big.” Your car (or airplane, or whatever) is bigger than you are, so unless there is a compelling reason to leave it, don’t. You can make yourself big with a mirror (signal mirrors are easily aimed, but a rear-view will do) or a shiny piece of metal. A fire at night is seen for miles. During the day, burning tyres generate a lot of smoke that can attract attention. Of course you make yourself “biggest” with a radio. Aircraft have ELTs (emergency locator transmitters) that transmit on the emergency frequencies (121.5 and 243 mHz) and many pilots carry handheld radios. I believe many boaters carry these as well.

Most importantly, keep your wits about you. Don’t panic. Believe you will survive, and your chances of survival increase.

Also, if you may be in an isolated area, carry a survival kit and plenty of water (about a gallon per person per day).

The best survival rule I’ve ever heard, and twice applied:

Hungry? Six legs or less, and it’s safe!

Tripler
Just make sure you cook it.

If you are lost in the woods like those Blair Witch nimrods FOLLOW THE GODDAMN RIVER – don’t cross it a million times, getting more and more lost each time, not to mention panicked. sheesh. Plus – and correct me if I’m wrong here – but isn’t running water supposed to scare off bad spirits?? Just another reason they should have FOLLOWED THE GODDAMN RIVER.

Thanks, I had to get that off my chest.

We now return to our regularly scheduled wilderness survival tips.

With the same sheet of clear plastic and a pan, you can make a solar still to purify salt water. Place the receptable of water on a flatish surface in the sun. Over the water, make a “teepee” shape with the clear sheeting – a triangle-based pyramid – propping it up with sticks or whatever is handy. Along the base of the teepee place something to catch the fresh water.

Basically, the water will evaporate up, condense on the plastic, and run down the sheeting. Not too efficient, but it beats eating fish eyes, eh? Don’t forget to replenish the water under the sheeting.

Johnny LA

Good survival tips. I have to take some exception to the clear plastic terrarium hothouse for finding water, though.

While it works, technically, the amount of fluid you lose performing the work to create the water trap is actually greater than the amount of water you will collect. You’re better off plugging a cactus (This is illegal in many areas, but better to have a ticket than a coffin, if you find a prosecutor hard-nosed enough to take you to court for staying alive.) or <shudder> recycling your urine.

The best plan of all, of course, is to plan for serious contingencies and pack along more water than you will need.

Thanks for the adise. Hopefully none of our fellow Dopers will need to use it.

Or… as long as you’re packing for the trip… you can bring a few canteens of fresh water. Your choice. :slight_smile:

As for drinking the water the fish are swimming in… well that also the water that a lot of animals are probably peeing and pooing in. I wouldn’t drink that if I were you.

:wink:

The amount of water you lose digging the hole depends on the conditions when you dig it. If you work at night, you will sweat less than you would in the day. You are correct that you won’t get much water. Maybe 1/2 to 1 cup per day. This is not enough to sustain life, but it’s better than nothing. And once you dig the hole, you will keep getting water; so the trade-off may be a good one.

As for plugging a cactus, if someone’s around to give you a ticket, then you’re probably not too bad off. :wink: Seriously though, it’s not like putting in a spigot. You can take out some of the pulp and chew it. Sometimes it can make you nauseated, but it can help keep you alive.

The only safe way to recycle your urine is to use the still method I described. Never drink urine! Yours, or anyone else’s. I know some people tout its beneficial health effects, but in a survival situation drinking urine can kill you.

Ewww (says Eve, straightening a seam and nonchalantly powdering her nose), nature is ICKY. As for me, I think of “the outdoors” as what you have to pass through in order to get from the limousine into the restaurant.

Y’know, in the same line of thought as the “drink the water the fish swim in instead of cracking their spines” argument, it seems to me that it would be much simpler to track the animals and find out where they drink, as opposed to trying to hunt them down for their eyeballs, which would certainly use up more moisture than you would get from the eye.

Actually, the advice described in the OP sounds almost word-for-word like a bit of advice I read in a manual my Dad has called Survive Safely Anywhere. It was written by a survival instructor with Britain’s Royal Air Force.

I haven’t seen an answer to the question about why you shouldn’t gulp water if you’re dehydrated…the answer is it’s likely to make you spit up. Which if the water you at last find is limited, you’ve just wasted it.

Amen.

<picking up the keys to her Jag>

Once again Eve shows true class and demonstrates why I’ll never be good enough,

:::::sigh:::::