This is for PETA, and all of their like-minded fellows

The BBQ Pit
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To start this hateful rant, I’d like to say that I had a husky as a pet, and when we had to put him down, it was a sad day for our family, so I’m not a cruel person. Now to the rage.

A girl in one of my classes brought up the point that we should treat animals with respect, because they have rights. I would have voiced my rather controversial opinion on this subject, but I felt I would’ve gotten too worked up about this, and it’s better safe then sorry, no?

But seriously, animals should have NO rights. They are a part of nature taken outside their natural environment and designed to suit us human beings. Let’s take dogs for instance, they make wonderful pets, so cute and furry, loyal, just damn good pets. But that is all they are, pets. I would never eat my dog or allow medical experiments to be used on him, because the dog was designed to be a pet, not food/lab rat. Pets are property that happens to be cute, nothing more.

Animals we use for food has been DESIGNED to taste good and efficiently store/produce the things we want from them. Cows are totally useless outside of a farmer’s field, and chickens are the stupidest creatures alive. Veil is a thing these assholes like to bring up. Who cares how the baby cows are treated, I certainly don’t. It’s sole purpose in life is to sit chained to a pole in the ground and taste good (I’ve never had veil personally, too expensive, which is the reason I’m assuming it tastes good). The people who enjoy torturing animals though…they are sick fuckers. The libertarian in me says if it’s their property, let them go at it, but to get off from a creature squealing in pain, fuck. But my position on those guys is, if they aren’t harming animals that aren’t theirs, it’s their business.

Medical testing is what really gets me worked up though. Those sick fucking assholes think it’s OKAY to keep a stupid rat alive, while letting HUMAN BEINGS die from ailments that could be prevented in the future by slaughtering countless numbers of these animals (even monkeys, if it takes 10 million monkeys dying in the next 6 months to cure cancer…see ya monkeys). Don’t people realize pretty much ALL medicine is from animals? You can’t type up in a computer what an experimental cancer drug will do to a person, and if you test it on a human while it’s still in the alpha stages, that is just too risky, not to mention expensive (compensation, legal issues, side effects, etc).

Those people don’t realize that the ONLY way we can possibly cure aids, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, blindness, etc, is by giving animals experimental medicine, watch them as they probably suffer and die, then write down the problems, and keep trying.

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I might accept that animals do have one right- the right to be treated as humanely as possible, given their use and purpose. Thus, we should kill our food animals as painlessly as possible even if it costs a few pennies more. Experimental animals may be subject to experiments that are not nice at all- ut otherwise they are to be kept clean, well fed and comfortable. If the experiment causes pain, and we can alleviate that pain without changing the results then we do so.

Fuckers that mistreat and torment helpless aniamls are sickos in my book. But those PETA fuckheads aren’t far behind.

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We are allowed to say people are trolling now, yes? This guest seems incredibly mixed up. The post is close to incomprensible. Mujojo is either trolling or maybe he is 12 and cannot express himself.

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Veal. Not veil.

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or so entirely outraged that he’s lost all coherency. :eek:

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I cannot understand what he is outraged about. We all know PETA are idiots

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This is a weak-ass argument. You are assuming that if something was bred for a purpose, it is not cruel to use it for that purpose. How does that follow at all? If slave-owners selectively bred the strongest slaves together to make better slaves, does that mean you shouldn’t give a shit that these people are slaves? Obviously, killing animals for the sake of food is not the same as human slavery, but I am just using this example to show that your argument is unsound.

Oh, and if you don’t care how cruelly baby veal cows are treated, then you are a dick. Torturing animals to increase your profit margin instead of torturing animals for fun doesn’t seem like a morally significant difference to me.

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I would like to see this thread closed as it just seems like trolling. That is just my opinion. There is some good discussion that can be had on this topic. But this is not the OP to start with

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Then report it. Little red box in the corner.

Anyways, I’m not with the OP’s argument line at all. While the term “rights” wouldn’t come up that much over here in Norway, there are laws the prohibit unnecessary cruelty to animals and basically safeguard as much of a painless life as possible, even for for-slaughter cattle. And I like it that way.

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Look in the mirror, pal, for a glimpse at something that gives them a run for their money.

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You have got to be joking. Seriously.

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What’s our purpose? I’d venture to say there are insects and animals that serve more of a purpose than we do. What do we contribute to the planet? A bee contributes more than we do.

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Welcome to the SDMB Mujojo. As you can see the pit is tough place particularly on Sunday morning before the locals have had their coffee.

While many (most?) of us agree with you that PETA is a bunch of whackjobs, you will find that calm reasoned arguments will get you further than half crazed hand waving.

Since you are a guest and can’t search here are a few former threads on PETA:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412682&highlight=PETA
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410550&highlight=PETA
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=405767&highlight=PETA
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=405907&highlight=PETA

Enjoy your stay, I hope you decide to hang around.

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Could you please restate your position using only buzzing noises?

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PETA are a bunch of whackjobs. I find it sad that the biggest proponents of animals rights are generally assholes, cowards, liars, and ignorant. And I know - I work for the March of Dimes and PETA has its own very special page on us.

We just had a Walk today and someone snuck a protesting sign in the walk and ran. They didn’t even try to protest - they just stuck it in the grass, and happened to stick it far from the route, so I don’t even think the walkers saw it.

As to cows/chickens/pigs/dogs I do find it extremely hypocritical of the West to criticize the East for eating dogs or what-have-you. If India asked the whole world to stop eating cows, the world would laugh at them. I’m not sure why it’s OK for the West to tell everyone not to eat dogs! They may be cute here but not elsewhere.

As to the rest of it, I think DrDeth said it:

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bbbzzzzzzzzzz :smiley: I was weeding yesterday and saw a bunch of bee’s in the yard. Always reminds me of spring. I have bees on the brain.

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Ouch. That’s gotta hurt. (Although, upon reflection, I realized that the brain has no pain receptors, so maybe it won’t hurt. The mental image is still painful, though.)

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It really is a shame because they didn’t start out so wacky. They made a left turn into Crazytown.

A few years ago there was a show on 20/20 or 60 Minutes about a vet that mistreated a dog and the vet assistant had a video of him hitting the dog. It was revealed that the vet assistant was a member of PETA and the case against the vet went out the window.

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Why should the fact that , “the vet assistant is a PETA member”, be relavent to the case? If the vet mistreated the dog and the assistant got him on tape, why throw the case out the window?

And no, I am not a PETA member.

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(Firesign Theatre)Yes, understanding the complex problems of todays’ world is a bit like having bees live in your head. But, there they are!(/Firesign Theatre)