The insulin that I take is made by recombinant DNA technology. I don’t know if most insulin dependent diabetics use this kind or not.
Many diabetics control their disease with diet and exercise. While these are part of my program, I must also take insulin. I have a very strong family history of diabetes, both types.
Nope. Bacteria. At least in the US. In fact, iletin is not even available in the US anymore, and its use is waning worldwide.
Of course it would - mammals would still have islet cells that still pump it out whether or not a pancreas was removed from a lab dog sometime in the 20s. Exogenous insulin use by humans may or may not be in existence, but even so I don’t see how someone using a biologic whose use was discovered through animal experimentation almost 100 years ago would be “hypocritical” to use a synthetic substitute today. That would be like condemning a tofurkey eater because someone in 1820 discovered turkeys were really tasty.
How is one person with a destroyed pancreas more “severe” than another? I’ve never heard of anyone refer to a one-legged man as a “severe” one-legged man, but I hear this all the time when a layperson refers to a T1DM. Destroyed islet cells are destroyed islet cells, they can’t be destroyed more or less “severely”, anymore than a missing leg can be more “severely” missing than another. MDI, or multiple daily injections, is the treatment du jour. It has nothing to do with “severity”. Frequency of highs and lows have nothing to do with “severity”, it has to do with trying to replace a multitude of finely tuned endogenous hormones with one clunky exogenous hormone. The amount and timing of insulin a T1 takes has nothing to do with “severity”, it has to do with body size, metabolism, and a multitude of other factors, many that aren’t even known yet.
Sorry my first post is a hijack but I couldn’t let this go on a board devoted to stamping out ignorance.
I assumed he meant Type 1 diabetes, as opposed to Type 2, which I and millions of others control without needing insulin injections.
Oh my God. Now that you express it so clearly, it’s obvious he has a “less-than-firm grasp on the ability to express oneself.” I don’t know how I understood it in the first place. Perhaps, in your great wisdom, you could explain to me the problem with his capitalized “OKAY” and “HUMAN BEINGS” (I noticed you skipped them). And FTR, the “trying -> continuing to try” is weak.
And, please explain how this sentence:
makes any kind of sense without a semicolon after “typo.” It’s like reading gibberish, no?
Asshole.
Would you do the same for an ugly old man?
It just seems to me that “beautiful,” “young,” “lady,” “drop dead gorgeous,” “absolute perfect girl next door,” and “if you had excellent taste,” are all terms intended to make your subject seem emotionally appealing in exactly the same way PETA uses sad-eyed puppies when asking people to stop animal testing.
“Surely this deserves to live!”
Sailboat
Now, that’s ignorance fighting! Where did I get the idea that insulin comes from pigs? Ah, little research - it used to come from pigs.
I do know that isolating insulin was discovered by Canadians Banting and Best, not German doctors, though (I looked that one up before posting. 
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ETA: Maybe when people talk about severe diabetics, they mean poorly-controlled diabetics.
"I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products -- and I have no qualms about it ... I'm not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals." - PETA Senior VP MaryBeth Sweetland
PETA is against all animal testing yet if it hadn’t been for animal testing some of these people wouldn’t be alive today to argue against it. Insulin is a requirement for these people to stay alive whereas tofurkey isn’t, that analogy won’t fly.
You don’t see how condemming all animal testing, claiming that animal testing and its results should never be used to improve the life and health of humans, and stating that anyone who does use them to improve either their own or someone else’s life is evil and deserves death MIGHT conflict with using the results of animal testing for your own health problems?
Firstly, some people with Type 1 diabetes have some remaining islets, and thus some remaining insulin - and are thus less severely affected. Secondly, for reasons that aren’t well understood, some people with Type 1 diabetes who do not make any insulin have quite variable untreated blood sugar levels - some would go into a coma in a day without injected insulin, some would live for months. This variability in severity of symptoms has a considerable effect on how often they need insulin. Thirdly, people with Type 2 diabetes have a much wider range of symptoms.
mischievous
If it were Fred Phelps, the answer would be no. If it was someone who was a friend of mine, as the young lady in question was, then the answer is yes. Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to tug at your heart strings, but the facts are:
A) She was a stone fox
B) She was the sweetest person I met in that thankless job
C) She was every bit a lady
My description was accurate.
And to answer the other questions, yes she had type 1 and injected insulin at least twice a day if not more.
idot you really should read up a little more. :rolleyes:
Arizona have you still not caught on to the fact that ETF didn’t make the original corrections?? She (i think she) merely defended them. ITR Champion made the original [sic] quote.
I agree with your argument, but you might want to let it go as far as ETF is concerned, since ITR doesn’t seem interested in defending their actions.
It was a pair of German doctors in the 1890s who first made a link between diabetes and a dog’s pancreas, which led to the Canadians isolating insulin.
A doctor friend of mine was once abused roundly by a woman for learning to do a particularly difficult and tricky operation by practicing on monkeys … he told her “Madam, I killed the first two monkeys I tried this on, but now I can do it flawlessly. Would you prefer if I had learned to do it by practicing it on your children?” …
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I glad you brought up that up case I’m been working on writing a book about navel vassils and I will hope you are to proof read it for me and so fourth. I want my original words but I want them change made better but not the same like Toalstoy. I mean I’m not him I know. Make me interested so people will read me. That all I risk is all I ask but if you don’t have the time I won’t. I counted my words but I don’t know. And I don’t know other things as well as these also. But I thank you all the same.
Look out, ETF! It’s the Nigerian Editor Scam.
Sure. But was it relevant?
Sailboat
My dear sir, I regret to inform you that I will have nothing to do with vassalage, an outmoded form of servitude best consigned to the dustbin of history.
When I read “severe” diabetic, I thought “brittle” diabetic, although the post probably meant she just had to take insulin several times a day. I would say there are people with diabetes, who have a much more difficult time controlling their blood sugars than other, and thus many more comorbidities. Trying to manage someone who’s blood sugars ping pong around from 50-400 just from eating a saltine or something is scary! Plus the prognosis of someone who’s had a BKA (below knee amputation) related to their diabetes is pretty terrible…I think a fair amount die within 5 years, due to some other comorbidity (pressure ulcer, gangrene!?)
The problem with most PETA people is that they are devoted to the Cause. Actual, real live animals, not so much.