Thor is stupid; let's throw rocks at him (spoilers about the movie)

I am a huge Thor Comics fan, as some of y’all may have noticed, and also a huge Natalie Portman fan. I couldn’t make it through this movie. I bailed right around the point Odin took Thor’s powers, I was so bored.

Attention span fail. That’s right when the movie stars to get good. Well, better.

You should give it another go. It’s not a masterpiece, but it is entertaining.

Like I implied in my OP, you should just watch the ending. The beginning and the ending were the only good parts. The whole middle, except for a very few funny scenes, was meh.

And I’m sure it’s better than Hulk, but I never saw Hulk (and probably never will. Probably my least favorite superhero out of the famous ones).

I’ll get around to watching the Avengers eventually. :slight_smile:

I didn’t like Mjolnir flying to Thor either. I know his power is that he can summon it, but if that’s the case why didn’t he try that when he first learned that it was on Earth? It seemed more like the writers couldn’t think of a way to have Thor sacrifice himself for the humans AND raise Mjolnir a 2nd time to regain his powers.
The music in that scene wasn’t very good either.

Everything else in the movie was great. Loki had an inferiority complex and I like how even though he was bad you could empathize, atleast a little with him.

Thor trying to reclaim his hammer, thinking he’s worthy merely by his brute strength, and then finding out he can’t even lift it was pretty sad.

Easily one of the best Marvel films.

Thor doesn’t think first. That is his tragic flaw. He would make a remarkably unfit leader. That his motives are honorable doesn’t save him from disaster because he does not consider the consequences.

At the start of the movie, yes, but the point of the movie is Thor’s realization and character growth.

Thinking about it, I would agree that the scene is a bit of a failure. The whole point is that whomever is worthy can pick it up and he already failed once in a very strong scene. Maybe there could have been room in the movie to get him back to the hammer very fast and show him succeeding in hoisting it to prove that he attained worthiness. Then he could return to the town in a flash of lightning and a crash of thunder and smash the robot.

I don’t remember the music – the movie is on Netflix, so I may have to go over the scene again.

I liked the Mjolnir flying to Thor scene. It was the one time that kind of thing wasn’t contrived - he couldn’t prove he was worthy to hold Mjolnir until he put himself between danger and innocents, so there was no opportunity for him to regain it until he actually needed it.

ETA: And it was obvious that Odin meant it as a test for him all along. Why else send both Mjolnir and Thor to Earth? It was never intended as a permanent exile, but as a way for Thor to redeem himself.

Superman’s too busy standing for Truth, Justice and the American way to cripple rapists and murderers, so someone else has to step in.

Seriously - if I had someone who meant me harm after me, I’d be MUCH happier if Batman showed up. Supe will just haul him off to the police station, where he’ll spend a few days in jail and get out thanks to his slick lawyer. Batman will beat him so badly and terrify him so thoroughly he’ll never come within a mile of me again.

As a long time Thor reader, I can assure you that Thor unlearns this lesson at the start of every new story arc. He’s not bad at actually thinking when he does it, but it always a last resort with Thor. You would think that after dealing with Loki and Odin for more than four decades and considering how many times he has been duped by plans within plans that he might start thinking when he first encounters trouble. If I were Thor’s guardian, I’d tattoo on his hand:

  1. Think first
  2. Beware of a plan within a plan
  3. Hi Opal!

Ah. Far as I was aware, we were only talking about the movie.

Why all the hate for The Hulk? I thought it was a pretty sweet flick, and I loved Ed Norton as Bruce Banner (although the new guy in the Avengers is good too).

Is there a lot of hate for him? I don’t like Hulk myself, and think he’s another big and dumb hero in many ways. Yes, he can be smarter than some other heroes, but not my type.

I never watched any Hulk movies and don’t intend to.
Even if I wasn’t told Thor unlearns his lesson, I don’t really believe he learned his lesson fully in the movie either. So he knows it now - he just got back from his stint on earth, his brother, his family, etc. But I’d be quite positive he’d forget it in a week. How long was he on earth? Three days? Not long enough to sink into that head.

I loved the Ang Lee Hulk (with the qualification that it should have ended immediately after the San Francisco rampage, either with the intimation that Banner somehow escaped or with General Ross flat-out shooting Banner in the head) and rather enjoyed the Norton one (he looked more like Bruce Banner than any other actor I’ve seen portraying the role). And I also thought Mark Ruffalo was a good Banner in Avengers.

I’d say that in both Hulk movies, the jade giant is not the hero; Banner is. And Banner is the opposite of a dumb and not exactly a hero. In fact, in the Ang Lee movie, there aren’t any flat-out heroes. Banner acts heroically trying to save his assistant at the beginning, but after that he is both victim and menace.

Loki must have suspected he was different for years, and when they invade the Frost Giant planet there is a quick shot of Loki noticing his skin turning blue like theirs. He was aware even before the movie.

That’s why I’ve always thought it was Odin who was the stupid one, rather than Thor. Lie to your adopted son about his origins (by omission, admittedly), and then during his childhood surround him with people who think his true race is scum. Yeah, THAT’S going to work out well when the kid finally learns the truth about his parentage!

Lying by omission is still lying (says the person who was lied to about their heritage). AND I was told all my life what an evil person that lady was, and THEN I found out she was my mom!

Odin and THor can both be stupid; there’s plenty to go around.

I got bored near the start, so I started paying attention to things like the sets. That tiny little desert town looks very much like a backlot construction and very little like a real town at all, especially during the establishing scenes. Seeing a billboard with something apparently censored via black paint (a phone number, perhaps) sure didn’t help my suspension of disbelief.

Anaamika, speaking of the “so very pretty” theme, use Google Image Search and type in “Thoreal”. :smiley: (On a phone, hard to link GIS results at the moment.)

I think he’s the master of weather. Last time I was following everything, he had Storm easily beat there. Has that changed, or is there another weather super who beats Thor?

Dumb decisions plague many pre-Christian pantheons. Next to Zeus, Odin and Thor are Rhodes scholars.

I assumed Storm had him beat on weather control. If she doesn’t, I feel like she at least has to be is in his league.

I think it was Secret Wars where they pointed out that Storm manipulates weather patterns, while Thor creates them. There was also a scene where everyone assembled was a little awed by Storm’s display of power…except Thor, who was rather blasé about it.