You haven’t been watching TV lately, have you. Many followers of Palin and Glen Beck are thoroughly convinced that Obama wants to kill them or a member of their family if he can take over health care. They really believe he will euthanize family members if their medical care costs too much:
You’re probably right. No one seriously thinks that. But people are saying it. There’s a term for saying something that you don’t actually think is true. It’s called “lying”.
Its not actually lying, there’s some weasel room there. Its kind of like the Fox Gnaws habit of speaking, like “People are saying that the Obamacare plan will lead to mandatory sexually transmitted diseases to build up immunity.” And, yes, that’s true, people are saying it. He just did, and there is a good to excellent chance that people will be saying it tomorrow.
But I’m sympathetic to Starv’s memory issues, got some myself, but I earned mine and didn’t take the lazy way out of waiting for advancing age. But its a pity he can’t quite put his finger on these liberal posters who are saying this stuff. Darn shame. Maybe he can remember a name of one of these many, many posters? Cause then he could search on the name, find it that way. No? Hmm, worse than I thought.
Pity none of the rest of us can remember one either. Starv, I’m afraid I’ll have to recommend that you stop smoking so much weed. Just be thankful you have a vice to throw overboard when you’re holed below the water line.
This is politics. Sometimes you soothe the warier parts of the public so they’ll take their medicine. It’s like a doctor saying, “Won’t hurt a bit,” when he knows the shot will. It doesn’t mean you aren’t better off despite the scary shot.
If government can better serve the public by going further, then it may.
Actually, given the political culture, I worry more that Congress will resist change so much as to miss such an opportunity.
While this can be read as an attack on the post, not the poster, it is way too close to personal insult.
Please refrain from this sort of comment in Great Debates.
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No. The fact that the very wealthiest people in the world, when faced with extraordinary conditions, are willing to spend money to come to the relatively few specialist centers in the U.S. that few U.S. citizens can afford, indicates that highly specialized situations will attract cash, even when routine care suffers.
(For example, Cleveland Clinic is rated, by various studies, the very best coronary care center in the world. It also has a piss-poor reputation for keeping alive people who go in for appendectomies and childbirth or pneumonia.)
Actually, the number of lives saved based on our torturing people appears to be zero.
I think I’ll just chalk this up to wishful thinking and broadbrush condemnation.
Have one or two posters, (of varying backgrounds and locations), said something that could be construed this way? Possibly.
On the otherr hand, you appear to be supporting the outright lies of Sarah Palin which even the Republican congresscritters note are false, so the idea that one or maybe two posters on this board (seem, without citation, to) believe what you ascribe to them hardly makes a case that “liberals” believe what you claim. And it leaves accusations that the proposed health care plan will actually do that in the realm of fantasy.
Lives lost? Higher than zero.