Those Who Have Become More Accepting of Gays: What Changed Your Mind?

The first thought that made me start becoming more accepting was this.
If somehow I were to wake up tomorrow with in a womens body, I would still find women attractive, furthermore I still wouldn’t be able to find men sexually attractive. Luckily waking up in the wrong body is very unlikely. But being born with the wrong body doesn’t seem too unlikely when you realise how many things can happen during development. This led me to beleive gayness could be totally natural and not a choice made by the gay person.

Beyond this I now know that gay people aren’t necessarily in the wrong body. Often they are in the correct body, they just happen to be attracted to people of the same sex. But my first step in the correct direction was due to the thought process outlined in the above paragraph.

30 years old here. I grew up in a house that wasn’t exactly homophobic, but Mom believed (and still does, to my eternal frustration) that being gay is a choice made by people who want to thumb their noses at society. She furthermore believes that all gay people, especially men, are promiscuous and responsible for the rise of AIDS.

Like most children, I adopted my parents’ beliefs and held them until sometime in high school, when we started discussing philosophy. It was in the unit on utilitarianism, which really resonated with me, that I started thinking about morality in relation to how one’s behavior harms, helps or doesn’t impact others. Since then I’ve fallen more deeply into the camp of “if it doesn’t hurt anyone, it’s OK.” By this code, homophobia is much worse than homosexuality, especially since I firmly belive that exuality is not a choice – it’s innate. I’m no more responsible for being hetero than I am for being tall.

And like some others have said, having gay friends helps make the theoretical real, and knowing their personalities and their struggles helped me understand homosexuality as an aspect of humanity, not a deviance from it.

I knew of the phenomenon of being gay long before I was aware of knowing anyone who was. So it was a mythical condition.

And me, I had personality and mannerisms (umm, visualize sort of a cross between Little Lord Fauntleroy and Major Frank Burns in the form of an 11-year-old; stir in a little bit of attention-seeking silliness too) that elicited a hell of a lot of hostility from the other kids, lots of taunts that included “fairy, queer, faggot, pussy” and similar epithets.

Towards them, I was kind of icily removed and contemptuous and disapproving. Towards me, they were aggressively invasive, both physically and verbally with their taunting and harassment and hitting and threatening to hit and so on.

So as I got older and it worsened (in Junior High in particular) it seemed to me that they were accusing me of wanting sex with guys (insert EWWW-WWW! face here) while constantly approaching me and bird-dogging me, angry, hostile, violent, and seeking to intimidate or coerce me —— and it seemed to me like, OK, they themselves were the way they were accusing me of, and they wanted to fuck me, it was how they talked about sex (violent, hostile, aggressive, not friendly at all towards whowever is getting fucked) and it was how they were behaving towards me (yaah, yaah, you want to suck my dick dontcha ya fucken faggot), right down to the victim-blaming, see? I figured “here are the guys who want to have sex with other guys, who want to rape me, and act like it’s all me, it’s all my doing”.

A bit later, running into both real gay people and gay-rights politics, I’m afraid my initial reaction was to insist on distance. I am not like you. The existence of you people gives them a name to stick on people like me whether it fits or not, to explain away “sissy male” / guys who are more like girls than other guys as “Oh of course those are the gay guys”, well I don’t care if it’s done with hostility or warm acceptance, I’m something else so everyone just leave me alone.

What changed my attitude? Lots of stuff added together: getting righteously yelled at for contributing to the homophobia when I’d been a victim of it myself, realizing I was jealous of that kind of warm acceptance (rarefied though it might be), jealous of being understood and recognized in some sense (distorted and stereotyped though it might be), and, ultimately, why the fuck blame the gay guys? In what conceivable sense was any of this their fault? The guys catcalling and then coming over to beat me up for being queer didn’t distinguish between sissy and gay, all the same to them. Maybe gay guys are getting beat up for being sissy as much as vice versa, I do know some gay guys resent ‘effeminate’ gay guys and act like “It’s you fairy-guys who cause the hate towards all us gay guys, why don’t you act like you got balls?” …so maybe they could blame guys like me for the treatment they get with at least equal validity?

That sounds like my head got changed by political thinking rather than personal friendships and stuff, and I think that’s accurate. I had to get past the keep-your-distance and looking-down-my-nose stuff before I was open to being friendly or accepting friendship where offered.

Yes. I was never “anti-gay” but I didn’t understand why a man would be attracted to another man. Then I saw Kiss of the Spider Woman. I thought well, of course, who wouldn’t be hot for Raoul Julia, it was totally understandable, and I thought I got it.

After that, I’d see beautiful gay men and women and think sure, who wouldn’t be attracted to them?

So I still didn’t get it.

The biggest step for me was understanding that the attraction was just like a hetero attraction, that ordinary-looking men and women could love each other.

That’s where I’m at. I still might not be getting it, but I’m getting closer.

I grew up in a very rural, conservative area, and the general belief was that homosexuality was against God’s law. Then I became an atheist at twelve and was relieved that I didn’t have to hate gays anymore. And yet it wasn’t as if I thought homosexuality was a desirable state. One of my friends in high school told me she was bisexual, and though I was supportive, I thought it was rather unfortunate in a ‘you can’t live a normal life’ sort of way. My family has always been gay-friendly, and my brother had lots of gay friends (then there’s the time I found a photo of a penis in his porn ). Still don’t know what that was about. My mother made it clear, however, that she would be most displeased if I turned out to be a lesbian. It took a few years and some natural growth and maturity before I was okay with being around gays and lesbians.

I think my own background was somewhat similar to Ahunter. A lot of kids called me gay in school, and I hated it. Unfortunately this anger led me to be a little homophobic. It probably wasn’t until college, when I had a few gay aquantances, that I got over it. The easiest thing to make me come around to my views wasn’t being lectured, wasn’t getting in trouble over my homophobia- it was simply hanging around people who happened to be gay, but were ultimately just normal everyday people. I started to think that if the only thing different from them was their preference toward members of the same sex, how much different are they from me? Judging people based on sexual orientation then became as relevant as judging them for dating blondes, or fat people, or minorities, etc. In short it didn’t have any bearing on their own personality.

This helped me become tolerant of people beyond just sexual orientation. If a man feels that he’s really a woman on the inside, and wants to do something about that, more power to him- I don’t have any problems with it. I had a castmate in a play who was transgendered, and up until I found out about it I simply assumed she was a woman. When I found out, I didn’t treat her any differently; she was one of my castmembers.

Nowadays, I find it more appropriate to judge people on their actions and character, and not what they do in their private life.

My story is a lot like AHunter3’s, too. I grew up in a small town, in the middle of farm country. The rules, which no one ever fully explained to me, were that ‘if you ain’t like us, you’re a dead man.’ It started in Grade 8, when I didn’t even know what sex was, never mind homosexuality. Somebody decided I was a fag, and for the next five years I was regularly taunted and harrassed and beaten, had rotten food thrown at me out of cars, had ‘fag’ written on my locker, had the hose turned on me as I walked by somebody’s house, had paint thrown on me. At 14, I went for a car ride with somebody from school, who instead of taking me where he said he was going, went way out in the country and exposed himself to me as we were driving and started challenging me to suck his cock. This was so far from anything I could possibly have wanted, the stress and fear were too much, all I could do was cry. Hardly anyone would talk to me. I never had a date or a kiss or even a female friend, was never part of the society of school. Because these morons decided I wasn’t one of them, and I was going to pay. Due to this, and other circumstances at home, I ran away from that place and didn’t go back for 25 years.

I didn’t hate gay people. I’d never even met one, to my knowledge. It wasn’t something I had even considered about life yet, but people were saying I was one of them, and they hated me for it and tried their level best to punish me for it. Well, years went by, and my youngest brother came out of the closet. My mother’s reaction was to have a breakdown and send him to a psychiatrist to be “fixed”. I didn’t have a relationship with him at the time, so my reaction to learning was along the lines of “well, tell me something I didn’t know.” More years go by. I’ve known some gay people. I wasn’t one of them. I asked questions. I read a lot.

Fast forward to the recent past. My brother and his partner were the only members of my family who came to my wedding, from the Pacific coast of Canada. He and I have a great relationship now, as we’ve talked every day or thereabouts on MSN Messenger, for the last seven years. I’ve asked him lots about it, and I understand more than I used to. I still don’t get it, but I think that’s due to my being heterosexual. I hope this doesn’t start an argument, but I really believe that if the rest of us heterosexuals could get it, homosexuality would never be a problem for anybody. But you have various religious viewpoints to contend with, and attitudes borne of abject fear and stupidity. Fighting those is going to take a lot longer than anybody can imagine.

Homosexuals are just people. Who on earth would choose to bring all of that trouble on themselves if they could possibly avoid it? I chalk it up to being another mystery of the universe. It’s something I can comprehend intellectually and by reason, but still I don’t know what it is that makes a man want to love another man and not a woman instead (I tried to include lesbians in that sentence but it read very strangely). It happens. It has always happened. It will happen long after I’m gone. It doesn’t affect me in any significant way. I have no desire to fight it or try to change it. Homosexuality just is. No matter what you think about it, it continues to exist whether you like it or not. For many years now, I have been in the place of “live and let live.”

Several things, mostly religious, changed for me. One, I no longer believe that the Bible is to be taken literally, that it is no more than a morality story with certain truths in it (with the rest reflecting only the biases of the authors). Second, I am not God, and therefore I am not in a position to judge anybody, lest I be judged myself.

Third, and most important, I don’t want to be a party to the unhappiness of people who want nothing more than to be happy. The “gay agenda” is exactly that: personal happiness. They’re not out to make people catch “teh ghey”. Give me a break.

Live and let live, and everything else will take care of itself.

I used to be against gay marriage. “Why can’t they call it something else?” I used to say.

Then one day I realized “What the fuck do I care if they call it marriage? Why shouldn’t they be able to have that same right or privliege?”

That was it. I can’t really say anything in particular happened to change it. I just realized that I held a really baseless and stupid opinion.

When I was a kid, I was very fundementalist, very right wing and consequently, very homophobic. I eventually had a near breakdown from it because I became deathly afraid of going to hell, and afterwards became a bit less religious. So much that I now I thank god every day I didn’t continue down that path.

As time went by, I started to drift away from church, eventually stop going altogether(and eventually turning me into an agnostic protestant). After the Columbine Massacre I got heavily into the gun rights movement(I didn’t join a militia or anything) though that’s since cooled somewhat. That, and a number of other factors led to me switching to a more libertarian viewpoint(which I still sympathize more with then the GOP or democrats, though I don’t actively support them or agree with them on everything). It was more of an attitude “I don’t want people messing with my lifestyle(gun nut), so I have no right to mess with theirs(homosexuality, among otherthings)”, at least that I can remember." It’s evolved a bit since then and, while I’m still a little uncomfortable with some gay people(the really flaming ones) and I wouldn’t go a gay dance club or a gay pride parade, I don’t care what other people do in their personal lives(Though I think groping each other in public is a bit much whether it’s opposite or same sex).

Like others, I changed my beliefs when I met openly gay people.

Up till high school (I’m 39 now, so that was the early 80’s), I just sort of took it as fact that gays were somehow very, very bad. Most of my anti-gay beliefs were stereotypes: all gays were incredibly promiscuous and obsessed with sex, many were child molesters, and they all hated the other gender.

I think I got these beliefs from my peers moreso than from my parents. I don’t recall my parents saying anything about gays one way or the other (we didn’t discuss such things). However, I don’t recall that my parents ever stopped us when we made anti gay comments and jokes. I think their own opinions about gays changed about the same time mine did.

That was when I started singing with the church choir in high school. Yes, that’s right: I met my first gays in church. Most of the men in my episcopalian choir were gay, and they were great people. They weren’t anything like the monsters I was expecting. Most didn’t seem any different from the other adult men I knew. There were a few flamboyant ones, but they were great, fun people–certainly not predatory monsters!

After that, I couldn’t listen to jokes about gays in the same way. They were no longer discussing some abstract group. They were discussing Alex, Ben, and other people I knew and liked.

Even so, it took a few years before I became truly accepting of homosexuality. At first, I looked on my gay aquaintances as being okay even though they were gay. It was only after thinking about it and growing up a bit that I started thinking that being gay wasn’t some character flaw. There was no lightbulb moment. It took a long time.

Acceptance of the libertarian philosophy did it for me. Peaceful honest people should be free to pursue their own happiness in their own way.

My name is Anastasaeon, and I used to be a homophobe. It’s shameful.

I was raised Catholic, by a very confused but devout Catholic mother. Both of my parents dislike gay people. My mother is particularly in turmoil, because one of her beloved cousins turned out to be gay, and when the rest of the family taunted, shunned, and rejected him, she did, too, believing with all her heart that it was wrong and sinful and he was going to hell. In the mid-80s, he died of AIDS. My mother bounced back and forth between mourning his death and proclaiming loudly that he deserved it. I grew up listening to this.

I was just a child, and my parents were the whole world. They knew everything, right? God.

I was about 14 years old, myself a stomping, loud homophobe, growing up in a stomping, loud, homophobic community. I was a bit of an outcast, but wanted desperately to fit in. I befriended other outcasts, never impressing any of the popular kids.

One of these outcasts became my very best friend. He would do things so differently, and I secretly respected the courage he had to go against the grain so damn hard. He bought funny clothes; fancy clothes, nothing like the sweatshirts and team jerseys everyone else wore, even the girls. He dyed his hair funny colours. I used to tease him lovingly; while others teased him mercilessly and with spite. Eventually, he was picked on so badly, he decided to switch schools, to a place a little more “open minded” - not a small town, but a very small city. He invited me with him to hang out with his new friends.

My world was turned upside down by these people. They were so kind, so sweet, and so uncaring about how I looked or dressed. They just liked me, and they just liked him. We weren’t outcasts anymore. People liked us. I invited some of my other “loser” pals to meet these people. This new world, it was so unlike the tiny town I knew of. I realised that life was different outside that awful place. If it was different just a half an hour away, the whole world must be an amazing place. My mind expanded. I started, for the first time, really, to think for myself. My opinions were mine and mine alone. I liked it. I felt better.

We got braver. I made very close friends, and met wonderful people. One day, my best friend took me aside, and told me gently he had something to tell me about one of my dearest friends: she was a lesbian. I was thunderstruck. My mind reeled around, feeling partly disgusted, but something else… something new. Something I hadn’t allowed myself to feel before. I loved this girl as my friend, and I couldn’t hate her even if I’d tried. She was too wonderful. As I got used to the idea that she was a lesbian, I figured something out about myself: I had a crush on her, and always had. I didn’t act on it. I just mulled this over and kept it to myself. I never ever told her how I felt about her. I never told my best friend, either.

Later, he came out to me. He thought I would hate him, but I surprised the hell out of him by saying, sighing, “Yeah. I know. I always knew.” We had some really long heart to heart talks over that. I had been such an ass, and he forgave me. Then another friend came out. Then another. Many, many more did, not all at once, but over time, and when they were ready, and told me when they were comfortable. My mother remarked that I was a big gay magnet. Yeah. Weird. I kind of was. Still kind of am.

Some of my friends identified as gay. Some are women now, who were originally men. Some are men now, who were originally women. Some enjoy crossdressing, but are still men/women and are gay. Today, and even then, I respected and loved each and every one of them, and accepted them as who they are. They are all precious to me.

I, myself, as many of you know, realise today that I am bisexual. I don’t think I was ever “fighting” it, I was just ignorant. I am married today, to a man. Though I never told my mother anything, everyone knows she is greatly relieved. But if anything ever happened to my dear husband (god forbid), I will always be bi, and will date men and women, if I like them. I accept that, for myself, I will fall in love with who I fall in love with. Why pretend otherwise? (I know not everyone is bisexual, this is just how I am - I am attracted to both men and women. I know others are attracted to only men or only women, and are not denying themselves anything. But I would be, because I am attracted to both!)

My mother is still very back and forth on the whole subject; confused and tormented by her love, grief, and prejudices. My father doesn’t say much about gay people, just rolls his eyes on the subject. He’s a very quiet man. Maybe he likes them just fine, but good luck getting that out of him. I love them both, despite fiercly disagreeing with them over certain things. And I am calmly awaiting the phone call from my little brother, who I am more than certain will come to me first with advice on how to come out to mom and dad. He’s the only one in my family who knows I am bisexual. He hasn’t come out to anyone, not even me, yet. But I know. I think he knows I do, but I’ll never breath a word until he’s ready.

I am 27 today. Bi, raised Catholic, rejected it and became a Taoist. But once upon a time, I was a screaming 'phobe. I am glad I’m not the person I used to be. I’d hate myself. And I’d probably be just as confused and conflicted as my poor mother, who is only making herself miserable, and setting herself up for one nasty, nasty jolt when my brother comes out one day.

Well, there was that magical night with the Merchant Marines…

…just kidding.

I was never really homophobic, beyond juvenile name calling that lasted entirely too long in to high school. I ended up hanging out with punks, slackers, artistes, and dope fiends. When I heard Turbonegro’s Ass Cobra for the first time, I was hooked. Some might say I’m actually a little too enthusiastic.

I was very publicly anti-gay in college (I still think “homophobic” is a term often used with the intent to start a fight). I think my annoyance was mostly that gay groups had to raise such a fuss over their sexuality.

A close friend of mine defended gays, but not in an argumentative way. He simply shared how shocked he was at some of the crimes committed against gays, especially other men our age. I think, in part, seeing hate crimes committed against gays was a big factor for me. One of which happened right there in our town (two young men assaulted by a much larger group of guys, simply for being gay and in a dark alley at night).

Another factor was that such crimes were a result of the machoism that we men are taught. I’ve been mistaken for being gay often times because I’m such a gentle soul, not to mention my appreciation for the arts. I’ve never been offended when people make that assumption, in fact I take it mostly as a compliment. I hate the way men express their “maleness,” which is usually through aggressiveness towards each other and sometimes even to women, or the objectification of women. Gay men, like me, usually have utter respect for women. And I can’t stand how our culture encourages us to act like brutes who can’t cry, show empathy, or enjoy traditional “feminine” things.

Turns out, that friend of mine was, in fact, gay. He discovered this over a few years, and by the time he came out, it was no surprise to me. I was delighted that he came out to me first. Especially since I used to be so vocally “anti-gay.” I’m ashamed of how I used to act, but we live and learn.

I’m also a Christian, and still am, but I learned that being anti-[any group of people] is in violation of the second greatest biblical command (love your neighbor as yourself). Why do we criticize certain people “living in sin” when heterosexual couples live in sin all the time? I think it’s just as immoral to engage in premarital sex as it is gay premarital sex, so why single out one as “worse?”

Ultimately, what changed me most was being able to relate to being an outcast. I think some people declare themselves gay as a cry for attention, or just because they feel so different that they relate to others and belong to a group of individuals who also feel different, but I also realize that homosexuality is very real and that sexual attraction is very much unique to each individual. I’m attracted to traits that other people can’t fathom, and vice versa. And I keep a lot of my own sexual interests “closeted” for the same reasons, that of fearing how others would react.

I was raised in a very fundamentalist church and family. If homosexuality was mentioned at all, it was with the understanding that it was one of the worst sins ever. In addition, I had a weird introduction to sex.
I overheard my parents in the bedroom one morning, and was worried that Mom was being hurt because of the noises she was making. After they were done my dad came out and explained what sex was and that it was a wonderful thing between a husband and wife, etc., but all I saw was that sex involved sweat and screaming. I was extremely grossed out. Therefore, gay sex must be even more disgusting, and anyone who would willingly engage in it was a pervert.

Then I got older and started getting interested in boys. Desire seemed more natural. Focus on the Family was a big influence in my family, and I remember Dr. Dobson talking about a married man he worked with who had been forced to resign because he was seen visiting a gay bar, and who “struggled with homosexual feelings.” I didn’t get it. He was married, right? So if he loved his wife why would he want anyone else?

Then I went to choir camp at fifteen, where I met my first, and only, so far, gay guy. He was a little weird (he wore blue nail polish) and he talked about sex a lot, but so did every other teenage guy there. And he was really sweet and funny and a great person.
He thought he was perfectly normal, and I sort of agreed with him. I started reading books with gay characters, and enjoyed them very much.

The turning point came in a college writing class when we debated gay marriage. My team argued against it, but as I read articles by gays or lesbians I realized that everything I’d been taught about homosexuality being a choice and stemming from how a person was raised was false. Some people are born gay and others straight, and who we have sex with shouldn’t define us. I used to think that all gay people talked about was sex, but really they are fighting for equality, to marry and raise children and have lives just like everybody else.

I’m twenty-one now. I think I would be startled to see a same-sex couple being affectionate in public, but I hope I would accept it and not think it was gross. I’ve moved to the Bible Belt, so I’m not around gay people that I know of. I don’t think that gay marriage or anything else is something that the American public should vote on; I think Congress should just make it legal and have done with it. But if I ever get the chance I will vote in favor.