Aw, c’mon! It was a stunt, a political stunt, rube-fooler! A guy who is smart enough to twist arguments ought to be smart enough to understand them.
We can’t cure the patient’s cancer so we’ll put him in hospice.
Yay, we saved him!
ETA: And it only cost seven million dollars.
I figure his supporters are just so danged embarrassed that their boy turned out to be a gold-plated dufus that they have to evade, twist, shuffle, backpedal, and play rubber-glue. They got nuttin’ and they’re just now getting the picture.
Sit and watch…every little company is going to expect DT to step in and fix their problem with a government bailout. Wait… “government bailout”??? I thought those were the two filthiest words in the English language. Oh, I get it. Only when Obama did it. Now it’s okay.
And the man isn’t even P-word yet. What in the fuck will the next four years bring us… :smack:
I’m really hoping there is an SDMB ‘silent majority’ out there that, like me, is determined NOT to treat the Trump presidency the way the GOP treated the Obama presidency.
Taking longer than we thought, indeed.
Obama the man did not merit being treated like a buffon-joke-reality-star-pussy-grabber with the intelligence of a cabbage. Donald Trump the man does. Donald was not a normal candidate and he is not behaving like a normal President-elect. We cannot start seeing his outrageous behavior as normal and acceptable. And it’s already happening.
Electing him and then inaugurating him does not make any man into someone who automatically deserves respect. Making a man President does not make him into a decent human being.
The GOP treated Obama the way they did because he was and is a black, well-educated liberal. Obama never had a breath of scandal associated with him, whether personal, financial, or political. Even so, our current P-elect pulled that birther shit for eight years. Obama never jumped into the pit, resorted to insults or name-calling, never lowered himself to the level of his unworthy opponents.
There is no valid comparison to be made between the two men and the kind of treatment they deserve.
If Donald Trump would give me ONE reason to respect him and/or refrain from being an asshole-jerk for one day, I would consider respecting him. Until that happens, I’ll continue to call him what he is. He is not behaving like a President. The emperor, God help us, has no clothes.
Well Pashnish, can we consider that question ‘asked and answered’?
Other than, you know, the office of The President of the United Fucking States.
You don’t have to like him. I sure as hell don’t. And I hate the way he ran for president every bit as you. But believe it or not, he will do some good stuff and some bad stuff. How about we encourage the good and jeer the bad (you know, when it actually happens, instead of refreshing every 5 seconds to get a hate-on about what the latest ‘advisor’ said might happen - like Trump has ever once listened to an advisor).
Maybe we can zoom out a tiny bit and realize that the battle for equality in this country has never been a straight incline. It is filled with fits and starts and some how we keep the zig-zagging the line upward through time. How about we stop gleefully imagining how Trump voters will feel when Trump doesn’t keep his promises, and actually celebrate if he doesn’t do some of the stupid shit he promised?
I swear, when I see the Trump version of ‘Region 1 DVDs’ and ‘Cash for Clunkers Will End Democracy!’ stories on a sight like TPM, I might have to take a break from the Democrats for a while. I broke from the GOP when they lost their shit about Clinton’s first term (I didn’t vote for him, thought he was a joke) and haven’t voted for a Republican since. But what I’ve seen from my fellow leftists and progressives so far reminds me a lot of those days, and of Obama’s 8 years.
I’m sure some of it is still the shock and disappointment, and, yes, the horror of how he ran his campaign. But I was wrong about President Clinton and it is just possible I may have been somewhat wrong about President Trump. Probably not, but I’m going to keep expectations low and hope for the best.
I’m with you. I hope like hell that the people who elected him are right, and that he actually does some good things. I feel like it’s unAmerican to wish otherwise. Some of the liberal shouting reminds me of the Republicans’ rantings about how Obama was the AntiChrist when he got elected.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m very concerned. But I think we need to hope for the best, and not demonize his supporters. We need to try to understand each other, and liberals wailing and gnashing their teeth about the rise of the American Hitler isn’t really productive.
Trump just went and pissed off China by talking to Taiwan and apparently the White House had to talk China down. Hard to say whether it was done cluelessly accidentally, on purpose to change the 1 China policy, or because he’s got business interests in Taiwan. It’s going to be a long 4 years.
No no, when Trump does it it’s not a government bailout, it’s “Saving American Jobs”. 
I said between the two MEN. As men. I know about the President thing. :rolleyes:
I would like to be able to respect him, whether or not I like him.
I’m not looking at the future. I’m criticizing him for what he has done in the past and what he is doing NOW even before he is President.
I predict more and more of this normalizing talk. Acting like he’s behaving like a normal person, like a normal President-elect. He is not.
Of all the silly things i’ve heard leftists say since the election (and there have been a lot), the whole “we can’t normalize Trump” is probably the stupidest.
By normalizing, I (and others who use the term) mean getting used to him and acting like the stuff he does – twitterstorms, changing positions on things multiple times and at will, doing his victory tour, not reading security briefing materials (which Pence is thoroughly familiarizing himself with BTW, possibly in anticipation of soon being President?) – constitute the behavior of a normal, competent, capable President. We can’t do this. We can’t relax into thinking that it’s normal for a President to send out tweets in the middle of the night. To attend rallies where people still chant “Love her up!” He’s not normal and we can’t forget that.
Is that what you thought I meant? If not, never mind.
If so, tell me why of all the silly things we leftists have said, that is probably (I’m noting the qualifier, and I appreciate it) the stupidest.
Man, I’ve been going to the wrong rallies!
:smack:
My kindle autotext wants the Trump rallies to smother Hillary with kisses!
Usually I proofread before posting. Oops.
I don’t care if Trump’s team (not, surely Trump) manages to avoid destroying the world for the next 4 years. That doesn’t change the fact that the man, himself, is unworthy of the office and is an embarrassment to the people of this country. The world laughs at him and prepares to duck.
I don’t think anyone thinks he’s normal, not even his supporters. I really don’t get the fascination/fear over ‘normalizing’ either. Are y’all afraid every future presidential candidate is going to steal Trumps playbook? I don’t see it.
Unworthy of office? I mean, do you guys even hear yourselves?
We regret any discomfort we may cause you, but, yes, that is the considered opinion of many of us.
Do you hear yourself?