Thread about ultra-Orthodox Jews given an inaccurate title change

And when someone asks what good X has ever done for the world, they probably aren’t actually looking for a literal answer to that question. It just means they are pissed off about X. It’s hyperbole. If you walk into a bar and some dude is all huffing and puffing about how Democrats haven’t done a single good thing, and then goes into how he thinks these specific things are stupid, I do not recommend listing all the good things Democrats have done over the years.

If you’re in a debate hall, go ahead, list all the good things Democrats have done. But in a bar?

~Max

Sounds good to me.

(hold me back…) Oy! Want to make something of it?!

The term “bigotry” covers it all… To use other terms to me is racist. One kind of bigotry isn’t more superior than another…

But of course, this is a way for minorities to fight each other over crumbs while the ruling elite laugh to the bank, cashing in on the divisions. And it works every fucking time.

Modhat: OK, take this out of the thread, it is a distraction from it.

Not a warning but next one will be.

Wait. But in this case the bigotry is against minorities that are the ruling elite that are laughing all the way to the bank.

/s: Just in case anybody asks.

ETA: co-posted with mod note.

What does this mean? How else can you read the board except going forum by forum?

It’s interesting that some people assume everyone reads the board the way they do, and others of us are like “ehhh…wot?”

If you go to https://boards.straightdope.com/ you get all the threads from any forums mixed together. It is probably the most common method of people browsing the Straight Dope.
In your Profile, under Interface, the Default Home Page can be Categories, New, Latest, Top or Unread.

Some people just look at the aggregate “Latest” threads.

https://boards.straightdope.com/latest

This is why the argument that offensively-titled threads are okay in the Pit is unsound. It was also why I found it kind of annoying that the mods decided that the “threads should have descriptive titles” rule doesn’t apply to MPSIMS.

De gustibus, but to me that sounds like a nightmarish way to interface with the board. But then I have less than zero interest in >99% of the shit people post about.

Mark Levin called, he want’s to know if he can angrily spittle your phase on the radio.

~Max

Do you care to address the points I made earlier? Specifically, do you have a solid basis for ascribing all this ideology to “ultra-Orthodox Jews”, or are you generalizing from a few people in the street?

Because while disavowing people who clearly and proudly espouse a “benighted ideology” (e.g. the WBC people) is not bigotry, ascribing a “benighted ideology” with no real basis to a group of people who you despise on other grounds seems bigoted to me. And ISTM that your posts in these threads fit the bill.

Doesn’t that “feature” completely remove the point of having separate forums? Baffling.

The forums don’t constitute perfectly defined non-overlapping categories. A topic that interests me might be posted in any one of 3 or 4 different forums. The thread title tells me whether I’m interested in something (or should do so), not whether somebody decided to put it in GQ vs GD vs IMHO vs MPSIMS.

Not everyone wants separate forums for browsing through. There’s so little difference between MPSIMS and IMHO and often Cafe Society that there’s no reason for me to separate them.

Since the move to Discourse, they aren’t forums any more, they are technically “categories” and the whole site is one “forum”.

I’ve been ignoring the distinction, on the basis that we - unlike Discourse - have different rules for different categories, and a long history of different standards in different forums (now categories). But given What_Exit’s assertion that most people nowadays make no distinction between one category and the next, even aggregating the feeds between different categories, perhaps I should rethink my positions.

~Max

Arguments that hinge on exactly what proportion of some group adhere to certain beliefs are rarely productive. Is “ultra-Orthodox” really a way any group self-identifies, or is it just pejorative shorthand for the set of people who do hold a certain set of (fucked up) ideas? I’m pretty sure it doesn’t correspond to any distinct cultural/ethnic identity, i.e. anything that’s defined by anything other than extremist religious ideology.