Thread Not for the Self-Effacing: how do you recognize your good breeding relatively

during your encounters with people? That is, when you are interacting with people, what clues point to you being better-raised or of a higher class?

Some English lord once said something about shoes being the absolute constant, but as far as I’m concerned, the use of profanity automatically tells me I’m better, as does the use of language which, politically correct or not, can be construed as offensive by some members of society, whether it’s racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. Also, manners which draw attention to the person speaking as opposed to the substance of the message. Other things go without saying, like digging for boogers, or farting, burping loud, etc.

Well, the first indicator of good breeding to me is that I’m not preoccupied with identifying the ways in which I am a superior human being.

I’ve always judged good breeding by how self-effacing a person is.

Clothes wise: Shoes certainly give away a lot. Clothes that dont match or are of bad taste. Kitsch.

Education is the other. People with more “breeding” have better vocabulary and more sophisticated constructions. Education cant be acquired overnight… while looks and clothers can.

As for profanity and other stuff… that depends on age. Very young and very old tend to care less about it.

Anyone interested in breeding clues would do well to read Paul Fussell’s Class: A Guide Through the American Status System. Written in 1983, it’s dated but it’s also a thoroughly entertaining read.

My debonair manner, good looks and well modulated speaking voice. I’m also rich.

It tells me “This guy uses the same emotion-packed words as my favorite TV and movie characters. He must be an actor!” :smiley:

Someone of truly good breeding doesn’t go around talking about how they’re better than other people. :slight_smile:

on a public board, no less…

A properly-tied tie, shined shoes.

A self-directed sense of humor, or better still humour.

Teeth. The more of them you have, the higher your class.

You would be amazed how wrong your statement is… naturally its usually more about putting others down.

Or the better you are at dodging…

If after I’ve punched 'em a few times they bleed blue, I’ll apologise, otherwise… Bah! Peasants!
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Good Breeding in Others to Me is:
Manners - holding doors open/no burping/excuse me’s/thank yous
Vocabulary/Language Use - no swearing/correct word usage
Intelligence - degrees don’t matter but ability to comprehend does
Consideration - give and take conversations/how are yous

Where they live/grew up

Where and if they went to school

Provincial accents, other speech clues

What they do for a living

Where they spend their vacation time

How they dress, grooming and style

Attitudes, how they carry themselves

So, a mentally-challenged person with all of the other requisite qualities can never be considered to be well-bred?

To me, good breeding (I hate that term) is mostly tact. To me, it’s being polite in all circumstances, appropriately dressed, displaying good manners, but, most importantly, making those around you as comfortable as possible. It’s also the ability to adapt one’s manners to the current surroundings with good-natured aplomb.

It matters little to me if your parents were gas station attendants or Harvard allumni. Nor does having a college education ensure more good breeding than only having a GED. “Good breeding” is much more than lineage or money (the Royal Family should be proof of that.)

considering the wealth and pedigree of the Hilton sisters, I look to them as the vanguard of elegance and repose. they simply reek of class.

I can raise either eyebrow at will whilst pursing my lips. Obviously, I am of veritably royal breeding.

It is funny that what you classify as “Good Breeding” is indicated by the outward apprearances and how they would show themselevs to other people.

Is it good breeding to have snazzy shoes and clothes but not have worked an honest days work in their lives?

Is it good breeding to have impeccable vocabulary (or spelling skills) but have the person you are talking to have no idea what you just said?

Is it good breeding to be politically correct (shiver damn thats almost oxymoronic)? To not mean what you say and say what you mean?

Good “breeding” is a myth. You are what you make of yourself. There is no natural predisposition to be good or bad. What is important is how one percieves ones self. If you are a good person inside, then you are a good person outside.

Wolf T-shirt = lower class.