So, how does it feel to have a convicted felon in charge of finding out EVERYTHING about you (OK, Poindexter was let off because of/ in exchange for his testimony, but he was convicted)? And he gets to determine when you should be singled out as a ‘potential terrorist threat’. Great…
I’ve been reading a few articles on this TIA thing for the past few days…and, um, I’m a little scared.
The DARPA site is (interestingly) down…but Goggle’s cache has it, and so does this site.
That’s all. And I guess it’s disturbing to me that, just because the govt. CAN do something (observe our every move) makes them think they should be ALLOWED to. I don’t give a f— how easy it makes tracking criminals. Calling the local police station every morning before you go to work so you can tell them exactly where you’re going and what you have planned would make things easier for them, too. Doesn’t mean we should do it.
As my wife said, when i told her about TIA, “Why don’t we just put the implants in our hands right now?”
I’d like to know where the heck all the legislators were when this happened? Both sides of the aisle fight over who is the most vigilant guardian of American liberty. Clearly, they are lying sacks of shit. :mad:
One report I read stated that the Patriot Act started out as a 50-ish page document, but by the time they voted on it it had become a 450-ish page document…this, and other things, were sandwiched in the middle.
Not that that would have stopped anyone from voting for it, mind you…
I have to admit, I thought this thread would generate more discussion. With the Teeming Millions mostly being electronically based netizens, recording EVERYTHING they ever say or do would seem to me a scary thought. And I do mean everything- they are talking about Petabytes of storage! (1,000 Terabytes = 1 Petabyte)
Oh, if you want to do something about this, you can go to the Electronic Frontiers Foundation site and send an email. There is also more info on this topic there as well.
Well, it’s not too surprising. This is “Great Debates.” If no one disagrees with you, there isn’t much of a debate.
My next GD topic: “Kicking puppies–an outrage!”
Maybe you could try posting a rant in the Pit, where people can just join in. toadspittle and erislover are correct about concensus agreement in GD; it just doesn’t make for an active debate.
Would you like a hijack? We could turn it into a discussion about the Bush administration’s tactic of rehabilitating discredited individuals from previous Republican admins back into government positions (Poindexter… Abrams… even Kissinger to a peripheral degree…).
What’s the point in debating or saying anything anyway? There’s nothing we can do. It’s not one of those media darling issues, and the Republicans are hell-bent on fighting their War on America I Mean Terrorism.
Just think, this is a justification now to pragmatically vote for a democratic administration, then the republicans will suddenly have pangs of conscience because that power will be in the hands of an “irresponsible” democrat.
I know democrats in congress voted for this, but then also the darling media would have had their heads in a platter, not patriotic to vote against a patriot act you know.
I agree this T.I.A. is not a good idea.
Since there is no discussion here, I cannot resist pointing this trivia/complaint bit:
Leave it to the republicans to ruin yet another entertainment universe. First it was the use of Star Wars for military and ideological points.
Now, what is this cartoon administration doing!? Aping a fun cartoon serial that is familiar to many Hispanic readers:
Francisco Ibáñez, created them more than 30 years ago! And they are spies for the bumbling TIA!
TIA was a reference not only to the CIA but also to the fictional UNCLE, in Spanish tia means aunt. I guess I will keep this picture in my brains just to keep my mind from depression, knowing that freedoms are being taken away.
Just posting to say that I agree that this is a disgusting, frightening development. Unfortunately, it seems that hardly a day goes by nowadays without me hearing about some new government program, policy, or court case that scares the bejeezus out of me. Perhaps next week it will be a press conference with Bush on a stage urinating on the Constitution while laughing maniacally, as a crowd cheers fervently screaming “now we will be safe!”.
I normally would have kept my agreement to myself and moved on, but I wanted to try to help Tomcat feel better. There are others like you Tomcat, don’t worry.
There are others like you Tomcat, don’t worry.