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Unfortunately, that may not be the case. I don’t have a link, but the source is Xinhua:
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Did you believe everything you read in Tass? If this is thuggery, so was the Boston Tea Party.
I hope not only that there are a lot of athletes in Beijing, but also lots and lots of reporters. Either they will be censored at the time, and report it later, or we will hear a lot about what is going on. Of course we’ll have to see if the athletes will be able to breathe.
I’m getting just a bit fed up with the ChiCom leaders myself.
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It seems my position was not clear enough. I am hoping they are shown NO leniency.
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“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson. I guess you would have been a Tory in 1776.
It’s a shame it has come to this, but there has been “peace” for decades. I guess if you screw them over enough, even Buddhists erupt.
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“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson. I guess you would have been a Tory in 1776.
It’s a shame it has come to this, but there has been “peace” for decades. I guess if you screw them over enough, even Buddhists erupt.
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It’s about friggin time. I figured the Tibetan culture was just going to waste away into the dustbin of history by the end of the century.
…and I’m guessing you are not the owner of one of those shops being looted, or a relative of one of the victims(Tibetan or Chinese) of the senseless violence on the videos posted by mswas.
Obviously, neither of us is going to convince the other on this particular venue, so I’m not terribly worried about that. This thread did prompt me to read up on things though, I had no idea.
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…and I’m guessing you are not the owner of one of those shops being looted, or a relative of one of the victims(Tibetan or Chinese) of the senseless violence on the videos posted by mswas.
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I guess you are not a relative of the Tibetans who became the underclass in their own country when the Han Chinese were moved in via planned migration. I guess you aren’t a Buddhist who had your native religion outlawed, and your spiritual leader exiled.
Those gangs of young men with the shaved heads and the orange robes running up and down the streets throwing rocks in the videos, those are the outlaws you are referring to? Man, those Chinese sure suck at this. They could use some lessons from their American friends. You’ll never see any race riots over there.
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Those gangs of young men with the shaved heads and the orange robes running up and down the streets throwing rocks in the videos, those are the outlaws you are referring to? Man, those Chinese sure suck at this. They could use some lessons from their American friends. You’ll never see any race riots over there.
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It’s about friggin time. I figured the Tibetan culture was just going to waste away into the dustbin of history by the end of the century.
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Oh, come on. It’s a damned theocracy. A theocracy is not something worthy of preservation.
I wasn’t aware of it before you brought it up, no. I am in fact aware of race riots occuring in the United States, although not that particular one. Sorry if I whooshed you with the last post.
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The Chinese have instituted a systematic ethnic cleansing of Tibet, they have moved Han Chinese in to work the land, outlawed the traditional religion and exiled the spiritual leader. The Chinese of course will always over-react.
I expect genocide to be complete before the summer olympics.
Or…
We see a reformed China where people actually have a voice. Either they crush the Tibetan rebellion brutally and utterly or they liberalize and allow free speech all across China.
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China chould have never been given the Olympics in the first place. The country is still a mess, but since the Western world can make a buck off it they don’t really care.
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Oh, come on. It’s a damned theocracy. A theocracy is not something worthy of preservation.
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Japan, England, Spain, and at least part of New England were once theocracies. Does that mean those cultures are not worth preserving? In fact, you’re probably going to have trouble finding any culture in world history that hasn’t had a historical phase where it was too theocratic for your liking, or that isn’t derived from a culture that did. Does that mean we should junk all human cultures and start a new one?
That didn’t work out so well when the Chinese tried it, or when the Khmer Rouge tried it…
What if they restored rule by the Dalai Lama, but it was a constitutional rule, where he would have a parliament and limits on his power or even be a figurehead like some European monarchs, and rights and religious freedom for all Tibetans? Would you be against restoring the Tibetan theocracy on those terms? AFAIK, that’s what the Dalai Lama and his supporters want to do. The Taliban they’re not.
