And the Understatement of the Day Award goes to. . .
This guy makes me wish I believed in a hell.
Sorry, forgot I was in the pit.
Cock knocking jizz bucket son of a whore!
that is all the vitriol I can work up today. I am experiencing outrage fatigue.
Thankfully, he does, so we can only hope that in his last minutes of life on Earth his brain decides to remind him of this fact and places him firmly within Satan’s grasp.
Wasn’t that Aarfy? Good old Aarfy, everyone likes him. That girl, though, she was just a dirty prostitute. They won’t arrest him, though. Not good old Aarfy.
Aarfy killed the maid after raping her, so she wouldn’t say anything bad about Aarfy. (He also describes bringing to adolescent girls to his fraternity house and gang-raping them under threat of telling their parents that they were “putting out”.) As much as I’d like to compare Rove to such a vile character, Aarfy is way too easygoing.
Stranger
The guy seems to be saying that a Christian education helps one accept lies from those in power. You know, he might have a point.
He believed his president, a known complete and utter goddamned idiot with an agenda. He should make the Darwin awards for this.
I don’t mean to derail this thread any further, I have opened another thread if you want to continue.
Funny, that was just what I wanted to write.
I don’t know about that. People who are disposed to respect the military and soldiers will continue to do so.
Sophistry.
Yep. I respect the snot out of the military. It’s their commanders, and Commander-In-Chimp I zero respect for.
I don’t need any cotton. Have you got any green red bananas? (Or is it red green bananas?)
That number includes me. What frustrates me is the fact that people who do not respect the military can now hide behind the Tillman and Lynch stories to question the credibility of such tales of heroism.
I was in the military myself as well as some of my family members. I have always found stories about courage under fire and adversity to be uplifting.
I also enjoy the fact that they make anti-military twits uncomfortable when they look in the mirror…but they have intellectual cover to hide behind for comfort now.
Look, if you mean people like Der Trihs, their problem isn’t that they doubt the soldiers’ courage. It’s with what soldiers do when they’re doing their duty exactly the way they’re expected to. You know, breaking things and killing people. I acknowledge doing that is sometimes sadly necessary (and respect soldiers’ readiness to endure hardship and danger while doing it), but I can understand the other POV.
I can rationalize it if I try hard enough. The old "I respect the troops, I just don’t respect their mission. And right after they say that, they piss on the troops, talking about how it’s their own fault they volunteered or that they are “ignorant pawns” or some other such intellectually parsed nonsense.
They can say what they want about Iraq. Or Vietnam. They can fall back to Grenada if they like, to find a mission to question and an excuse to undermine those who carried it out.
But the bottom line for the pacifists that are hostile to military members is this…going back just to World War II, literally thousands of troops have died for your right to prance in the street with trite signs that rhyme without being shot on sight.
They had the bravery to jump out of the boats at Normandy. To run through bullet-ridden air to bring aid to thier comrades. They liberated concentration camps. Airlifted food to the starving. Saved and protected millions of lives.
Yet some want to denegrate them as “pawns” or “robots”. That’s fine. Those people can keep telling themselves they are superior in some way to maintain thier self-esteem.
Are all military members perfect? Of course not. But millions of them over the years had the stones to actually take up arms and defend the freedoms that other like to shout about but can’t bother to take any personal risk for.
I don’t think that her gender is why she became a “star.” After all, the woman captured with her, Shoshana Johnson was virtually ignored by the media. (And, apparently by the Army, too. While Lynch recieved an 80% pension, Johnson only recieved 30%.)
Let’s not overlook one of the nastiest parts of this coverup in Tillman’s case: one of the people most directly involved in it, a person who has basically now been exposed as a liar, originally had this to say about how the Tillman’s should just shut up and let this issue go:
From:
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007/04/pat_tillman_and_more_slurs_aga.php#more
What an asshole.
You don’t think the fact that Lynch was white and cute, while Johnson’s black had something to do with it? Certainly seems the most likely explaination to me.
I think that’s what **Lissa ** was alluding to with the link that she provided. And I agree–it’s the most likely explanation to me, too.