This entire discussion is why this is the one and only issue that I believe only Trump can fix. We all agree the time changes are horrible, nobody can agree on what to leave the time at. Someone has to come in and just pick one and do it their way, and Trump is really the best person for it. I honestly do not care which time we pick, just stop changing it and I will be thrilled.
Missouri has had a few efforts to go on permanent DST a few times in the past few years. Now that tRump is behind it our legislature will be all for it.
I’ve long wanted to have the same time year 'round. I’d prefer Standard Time, but any port in a storm and all that.
We’ve seen the studies. It does make a difference. Kids, particularly teens, did better with later start times. Unless, of course, there are later studies refuting the studies I read a few years ago. No kids myself, so I can’t promise I haven’t missed any.
We have staggered school starts, with the HS first, middle school times & then finally elementary school; I believe that’s get all students on a given bus allowing it to do multiple different runs rather than needing more buses/drivers. The elementary kids are & would continue to go to school in daylight; however, the older kids may be in the dark but they are presumably (hopefully?) wise enough to not walk in front of a car while dressed in all black.
It doesn’t bother me, and IRL I haven’t heard anyone complain (other than losing an hour of sleep in spring).
It may end up that the entire planet will be on Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), and localities will simply set school and business hours that are convenient for when it’s daylight there.
We can’t get the U.S. to completely adopt the metric (i.e. SI) system. Do you really think we could get the U.S. public to accept UTC time?
Hey, they already accept time that isn’t based on the Sun, anyway. Just don’t tell them it’s an international standard. Come up with some other numerology for it, and say that it’s Trump’s idea, and people would bite.
Back in the 1970s when there was some fiddling with daylight saving time, I was walking to school in the dark.
A few years ago, I asked my mom why she was always putting me on the school bus in the middle of the night when we were stationed in Germany. (This was in December and January when I was in the 2nd grade.)
She replied, “It wasn’t the middle of the night…it was 7:30 in the morning!”
Who could be against the United Trump Clock (UTC)?
I rate it as “meh”, no big deal. In fact, I would rather keep DST than give trump and the MAGAs a win .
I’m sure the massive increases in strokes, heart attacks, and fatal traffic accidents that happen every time we change the clock are just fine and dandy then. We are literally killing people over a mild inconvenience because people can’t decide whether we should get up earlier or later. It has to be stopped, which one we pick does not matter.
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n a sweeping analysis of nearly 170,000 patients over a decade, researchers at Duke University School of Medicine found no significant increase in heart attacks during the weeks surrounding DST transitions — in neither spring nor fall.
The findings published Sept. 9 inJAMA Network Openchallenge earlier, smaller studies that suggested the spring time change, which robs people of an hour of sleep, could lead to a rise in cardiovascular events.
The only exception in the new study was a spike in acute myocardial infarction (AMI) cases following spring DST in 2020, coinciding with the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, a period of widespread stress, uncertainty, and disruptions to health care.
“This is the most comprehensive look we’ve had at the relationship between DST and heart health,” said lead study authorJennifer Rymer, MD, an interventional cardiologist at Duke Health and an associate professor of medicine at Duke School of Medicine. “And the data simply don’t support the idea that changing the clocks causes a surge in heart attacks.”ang=“EN-US”>
I believe there are a substantial number of people who think they want year-round Daylight Saving Time when what they really want is the long days that naturally occur in the summer.
“I really like how it stays light until late into the evening. That’s because we’re on DST. Let’s pass a law and make it stay light late into the evening all year.”
Add me to the skeptics about whether there really is “massive” mortality over what’s acknowledged to be a “mild inconvenience”.
And yeah, I see even the POTUS and Congressmen arguing the fact of avoiding a clock change as the main goal sought, trumping whether the hour chosen is better for productivity and quality of life. Why am I not surprised.
I am on record upthread and in other places that the real answer should be to redraw the time zones so that the seasonal variance vs astronomical noontime is better centered, and THEN lock in a “standard”.
That may result in zones staggered significantly further off the notional “UTC minus” bands than now, but that already happens and in some world regions even more so. (Heck, it may even require FIVE time zones in the 48. Oh no what a nightmare…)
Of course no one wants a time zone plan that would for example split off Chicago from the suburbs immediately to its east. The current boundaries are a compromise based on practical convenience.
Today’s XKCD is spot on regarding the topic.
“All discussions of daylight saving time policy are doomed by a mix of contradictory, inconsistent, and impossible preferences, which is why I think the only thing we can really hope to do is to make it worse.”
Let’s get the science nerds working on that one. Let’s get this tilting earth business on lock down once and for all. Long summer days year-round for everyone in the northern hemisphere and if the southern hemisphere folks don’t like it, well they can put their own science nerds to work on a second sun.
Giant, space-based lever to tilt it back favorably for them. 