Yep, start times would change daily.
I so don’t care. Changing back and forth is no hardship for me, and has never been.
I don’t care where the time is set, but just set it and leave it. Every year I am exhausted for the first week of DST in the spring (like right now, today) because my body does not like getting up an hour early. It doesn’t matter that I went to bed an hour early, and went to sleep an hour early. I still want to crawl back under the covers.
Of course, this is what the world was like before we had to travel anywhere or communicate with anyone further away than the next village. But then we went and invented trains, and then we needed train timetables, and then we needed to schedule calls with people in other towns and then there were all these factories that paid workers according to how many hours they worked because because they were part of a production line and couldn’t just skip off when they were done and before you knew it, we kinda needed a fix on what time it was.
At the risk of a whoosh, Indiana has gradually been moving more and more of its counties to the Eastern zone from the Central one. In 1918 the entire state was indeed in the Central zone, but that started to change in 1961. Currently 10 counties in the extreme NE and NW part of the state remain in the Central. [cite]
In addition to that , I recall years ago that the Indy 500 would be 1 hour behind my zone (Eastern, Ohio and Florida), but that hasn’t been the case since 2008 since they moved to using DST at that time. [the argument against was that sunset would occur at around 10 pm near the summer solstice]
It’s 20 seconds per day. So, school starts at 7:46:40 today and 7:47 tomorrow.
Genuine question - why do you have to get up an hour earlier? Are you still working, and is your work schedule inflexible, or is there another reason?
never mind
That would be an absolute disaster, expecting everybody to pay attention to what time the sun rises (possibly in multiple locations ) each and every day. The reason we have timekeeping devices is so we can interact with other people and avoid the problems that happened when “noon” where I am isn’t “noon” a couple of miles away .
I knew someone would ask. I’m not still working. For one thing, I don’t like sleeping in, I did that when I first retired and felt like I had lost a significant portion of the day. Secondly, maybe my body is a delicate flower, but I have to make the adjustment some time, and it doesn’t seem to matter when I do it, it still feels rotten trying to change my body’s sleep schedule. And when I was working, yes, my work schedule was inflexible.
One thing I haven’t tried is to set my alarm to wake up 5 minutes earlier every day, so that I can make the transition over (does math) 12 days. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Then I can do the same thing in the fall. Whoopee.
Noon will still be noon. Time zones can still be a thing. Time will still be a thing.
What will change is when the bank opens. There’s no reason to force employees into a building at a specific time just because the clock says so. Let them sleep until the sun wakes them up. That’s how we all used to operate and it seems much healthier.
(obviously this doesn’t apply to all jobs.)
If schools need to plan by the second we’re probably doing something wrong. But point taken.
50 years ago there was a change to year round Daylight Saving Time and apparently it was an epic failure. People didn’t like getting up, driving to work, and getting the kids to school in the dark, and the experiment only went for one year. I don’t see how things would be different now.
To me the current system is pretty close to being the best possible compromise. DST in most of the U.S. now lasts 7 and half months. Splitting out more zones would be helpful because the northern areas obviously have different needs than the southern ones, but it would also make things a lot more confusing. Starting schools at a variable time depending on sunrise? Like every day would be different, or every week? I don’t think you’ve thought that one through.
And once we had a good fix on what time it was, the clock started overruling common sense.
We can have common time and time zones and coordination while also acknowledging that seasonal depression and sleep deprivation are real things and make some changes in how use these time-based tools.
Cite please? Where was this experiment? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t where I was living.
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying - probably my fault. In order for me to go to the bank without getting there before they open or after they close, I need to know what time sunrise and sunset are, even if I don’t need to know for any other reason. If the day care center opens 30 minutes after sunrise so people can get to work an hour after sunrise, it’s going to be a disaster when someone on staff looks at the sunrise time on March 20 instead of March 28 and opens up 10 minutes late. Which could happen now, but it’s a lot more likely with a different opening time each day.
And if you are talking only about the jobs that don’t involve interacting with other people who need to know the hours a business is open , those jobs don’t need to be on an “open an hour after sunrise” schedule either. They don’t need to be on any schedule if they work by appointment or don’t actually interact with people in real time.
That’s not going to happen either- some people don’t wake up until hours after sunrise.
From Wikipedia
During the 1973 oil embargo by the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), in an effort to conserve fuel, Congress enacted a trial period of year-round DST (P.L. 93-182), beginning January 6, 1974, and ending April 27, 1975.[16] The trial was hotly debated
That’s before we had large operations which function by virtue of having a schedule to follow. Manufacturing, for instance, doesn’t work for your model - companies couldn’t have consistent output - and many factories operate round the clock because you can’t just switch things off. Workers who are paid by the hour rather than by output, eg retail, would have unstable income, as would the shops. We’d also hugely increase the inequality between desk based roles and many others workers, (healthcare and social care, hospitality) as if it isn’t bad enough already.
Ugh, this again. Every year - every fucking year - you Americans whine and whine and WHINE about a simple bookkeeping adjustment. It’s insufferable.
The system works. It’s a good system. Stop talking about it.
No, I don’t think it does work, I never thought it worked. It is a stupid and outdated system.