Oh please. Every place I get take out from has one person working the cash register and it is that person who takes my money and hands me my food. The people who actually make it are elsewhere. I am not giving someone extra money just because they pressed a button to open a cash register.
So do all of you who tip for take-out also tip at McDonalds and other fast food places? It’s exactly the same amount of work.
My point is do you ever notice how harried the MacDonalds system of food delivery affects their providers?
Face it folks, we might think we are cool when we tip a server $!00 to take , deliver, bring drinks and ask if we want desert for our table of four, but if we go to MacDonalds for a cheap meal, we are also taking advantage of the less fortunate who are lucky, lucky to make 10% of what a waitress at a high class venue might make.
Amd if they had a chance in hell to do anything short of licking your clit and sucking youtr dick…
No, it’s not. Well, it might be at the local Chinese take-out. But at a regular sit-down restaurant, it is a lot more work than McDonalds, and it is diverting attention from work that they do get tipped (that is to say, paid) for.
So? It isn’t like it is a career choice. Places like Mcdonalds are there to show kids that they should have been, or should be, paying more attention in school rather than fucking around. The worse it is the more incentive to move onwards and upwards.
“Are there no workhouses, etc, etc”. You get the picture 
I truly understand where you are coming from.
My point is that MacDonalds food servers are no less deserving than a Ruth’s Chris server.
There is some arbitrary solution to how servers are remunerated by society that completely circumvents reality, but I’m not buying it.
Everytime you, yes you a doper who who contracts for a cheap meal at Mac Donald’s without tipping to save at least 10 bucks has compromised any right to suggest that they are behind any program for social justice.
There, I said it . Deal with it.
I worked for a time at a chain restaurant that that had a dedicated takeout person that answered the phone and took care of the order. She placed and bagged it. She didn’t have tables to wait. She also unfortunately got paid as a waitress, so she made all of jack s***.
If I place a to go order at place like that I would actually overtip, because I knew should wouldn’t get many tips otherwise.
It was one of the crappiest positions of I’ve ever seen while working in restaurants because most people didn’t think to tip them and they still made the super low salary.
As a cook in said restaurant, I was usually annoyed/jealous of the tips the servers made.
That girl however, made less than anyone there including the dishwashers and bussers.
Well, I could go to Ruth Chris’ for dinner and spend $100 or to Mickey D’s and spend about $7. I go to one for a good meal and the service that goes along with it and the other for a cheap meal. Traditionally at the one you would tip and the other you wouldn’t because they provide different levels of services.
Presumably, you have an excuse to accept really cheap labour on your behalf.
So shut up about Nike in the third world.
Lets get fucking real.
None of us would mind getting up and dispensing our own meals onto a plate.
If it wasn’t for the fact that tables need to be cleared, American smorgasboards wouldn’t require tipping at all.
Do you clear your own trays at Macdonald’s ? I know you don’t tip.
They can only pay you less than minimum wage if they can show your tips more than make up for it.
Because that is what the value of their labour is for that particular job? While I certainly wouldn’t pay them less, I see no real reason to pay them more as it isn’t a career position. I don’t need professional or trained trades people to do it, in other words. Any mouth breather off the street can do the work with minimal training. That’s why most people move on to other things and only work there temporarily.
I guess we could pay the people who work there $50/hr and a burger would cost as much as a good steak at your example of Ruth Chris’, but they’d be out of business almost immediately and those people who do use the job as a first job learning experience would be shit out of luck.
I don’t know what this means. Nike could be making shoes in the first world and there wouldn’t be jobs in the third. Better that they starve than be exploited, correct? Btw, you can’t eat principles.
Well, I also know that it is very unlikely that you tip at McDonalds, either. But I usually make sure that my table is as good or better than when I got there. “It’s the done thing nowadays”, or so I’ve heard, to clear your own table at a fast food joint. And unlike a requirement for tipping at the same place, that is actually true.