While not your typical Grammar Nazi, I find the following to be irritating.
I will get notes from staff saying that something or other “needs finished” or “needs done” (instead of “needs to be finished/needs to be done”).
I just sent back a proposed procedure manual revision featuring glaring examples of this, with corrections.
Mrs. J. thinks it’s a Pittsburghism that has crept west into Ohio.
It needs stop.
Ace309
January 24, 2011, 4:07am
#3
You mean “needs stopped.”
Wouldn’t that be “It needs stopped”?
And agreed.
Would you be happier with ‘needs finishing’?
I agree that ‘needs finished’, ‘needs washed’, etc, needs eradicated.
Askance
January 24, 2011, 4:54am
#6
I’ve only ever heard of this usage right here on the Dope. Seems it hasn’t slimed into corporate Australia yet, thank Og.
I’d never heard it until I started dating an Ohioan. It was…really odd at first. And it took me a little while to get the usage correct. But now, I find it kind of endearing, and I occasionally do it myself.
I classify it as “mostly harmless.”
Khadaji
January 24, 2011, 12:03pm
#9
It think it may be a Pennsylvania regionalism. It isn’t uncommon where I am and I confess that I have been guilty of using the idiom a time or two. (I remember a young man from Canada making fun of me in the mid 90s for it when I was consulting.)
Pai325
January 24, 2011, 12:46pm
#10
It is very common in rural Illinois, and it makes me want to cover my ears and scream.
MegaBee
January 24, 2011, 12:56pm
#11
It is a part of Pittsburghese. As long as the meaning is clear, I couldn’t care less.
LSLGuy
January 24, 2011, 1:38pm
#12
You never can tell what needs searched.
Bootis
January 24, 2011, 2:24pm
#14
You no care none if sentinces like this be coming up in technical procedure manuals 'cuz you know what I mean ?
Eww that’s awful. Especially written.
Clearly we need a stronger barrier between OH and PA, to keep these Pittsburghisms from infecting our language.
(The existing barrier needs strengthened.)
Jackmannii:
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It needs stop.
No, it “needs stopped” :rolleyes: :p.
It actually made its way east to Harrisburg, too; I grew up using that phrasing as well.
Of course, I grew up thinking the third letter of our nation’s capital was ‘R’, also. I got over both of these “rate away” once I hit high school.