That’s splitting hairs rather finely don’t you think? Czarcasm made several valid points. Whatever her full intentions were, she “gave the appearance of evil” with her statements, and they could have been used against her if the theif got ill due to her actions, whether intentional, or mere carelessness.
On preview: I agree, Caricci that she should involve the police. I think she should try to catch the theif on camera myself.
Lemme guess, Zabali, you’re one of those assholes who’d make me pay a burglar damage if he broke his leg tripping over something inside my house?
That’s exactly how you’re acting here, and it’s the reason that the victims of crimes are getting such shitty treatment in the legal system these days.
You and Czarcasm are both wrong if you think that it’s Indygrrl’s duty to make sure that there’s nothing dangerous to a thief in her medication bottle inside her own purse.
In what bizzaro-fucked-up universe is keeping prescription medication in a medication bottle inside a purse in your own desk drawer at work considered ‘negligence’?
If I were on the jury, and you read every damn post that Indygrrl made, there’s no way in hell I’d find against her. She expressed that someone stole from her, that the person got something other than what they were after, and that she hoped they ralphed all over because of it.
Whoopdee fucking do, Zabali. You have successfully proven that the defendant is human.
No, actually I’m not “one of those assholes”. It’s just that my perception of what happened differs from yours Catsix in that I don’t think the look alike medicines were “accidentally” left in her purse. It is considered negligence, to me, and some others at least because she PUT LOOK ALIKE MEDICINES IN THE SAME BOTTLE AND LEFT IT OUT WHERE SHE KNEW IT WOULD GET STOLEN, HOPING THAT THE THEIF WOULD TAKE THEM!
**She admits ** she did this at least in part.
I don’t know why she didn’t keep locking her purse up after that, until she could get the alarm installed so she could ethically catch the theif. The fact that she didn’t and an anti-depressant was stolen was just needless, and a bit too contrived in my book. It has a very unethical feel to me. YMMV.
“Unattended”, to me, would tend to suggest “lying casually on top of desk”, perhaps, MUCH more than it suggests "stored in someone’s private purse. OK, I do see that “purse” here doesn’t mean (as it does to me “little wallet thing for money and bank cards” but means what I would call “handbag”, but all the same, it is certainly something that ought to be treated as entirely private. Heck, I’d be furious if someone had the presumption to go ruffling around in my handbag to borrow so much as a biro pen, never mind picking up and opening more personal items. Furious also if someone invaded even my briefcase without permission, come to think of it.
Oh, and even IF the pills had been “unattended” in the sense of in public view and in public reach, that is still no excuse for a felonious colleague to help herself.
I agree with you here. However, she took the precaution to remove the pain pills carrying them alone on her person “in her pocket”, which she knew the theif would want, but left other pills that could easily be mistaken for the pain pills in the same container that the theif knew had previously held pain pills, instead of locking the purse which held the bottle up. That was dumb, and the motives behind it questionable at the least. Why only take the precautions halfway? Why not take full precautions if you take any at all? I can only think that it was a “bait and switch” tactic at work, and not a well considered action at that.
If you read previous posts I have made here, I myself have pointed out that it was a “mistake” and that I hoped Indygrrl could move past it, and learn from it. You all insist on trying to paint her as completely innocent, and a victim, while refusing to see what I’m pointing out. It’s not black and white, it’s shades of grey. The truth is somewhere in the middle of two things: those who claim the theif alone was the sole wrongdoer, and what those who say this percieve I have said as opposed to what I am actually saying. She made a big mistake, she’s seen the error of her actions, and thankfully no harm was done in the process.
Well, thanks to those who are defending me.
Zabali, I’ll say this as nicely as possible, fuck you. I do not appreciate being called a liar. I haven’t said one thing that’s untrue. Yeah, I forget to lock my purse up and that’s because in two years of working at this company I have never had to worry about theft. It is hard for me to remember to lock it up, which is why I decided to keep the pain pills in my pocket. The reason I didn’t keep anything else in my pocket is because I honestly didn’t expect that she would take something that looks completely different than the pills she had taken before.
The anti-depressants were in my purse from the past weekend when I stayed over at my boyfriend’s house and forgot to take them. They wouldn’t ordinarily be in there, but I forgot to empty the bottle when I got home. I also keep other meds in there from time-to-time, such as my daughter’s medicine, or a couple of Xanax or something. No way in hell am I going to put all of that in my pocket because of this person.
I don’t know what to do about the situation. I appreciate the advice that’s been given and I know that I can’t just let things keep happening. However, I have not been feeling great anyway and I am really nervous about a confrontation.
I am shocked that anyone on here thinks that I would intentionally harm a friend. I wouldn’t, no matter what she stole from me. Obviously, I can’t prove to you that I’m a good person, so you’ll just have to take my word on it. I have had no evil intentions and I don’t appreciate being accused of it.
I’m curious.
Let’s say I elect to store my rat poison in a canister labeled sugar.
Let’s say a thief breaks into my house and, in the process of stealing my belongings, helps himself to a cup of tea.
Am I being negligent for storing the arsenic in a mislabeled container?
I don’t see where ** Indygrrl** bears any responsibilty for ensuring that the thief steals the right medication.
Oh, and if I was baiting and switching I’d have caught her by now. It’s upsetting that someone feels the need to steal from me, but it’s not on the top of my priority list. I am very bad at keeping stuff under lock and key, and I guess that makes it my fault that she’ll steal any pill she sees.
** Indygrrl**- I really don’t think you need to justify your behavior although it’s nice of you to do so.
First and foremost, you are not the one stealing.
Secondly, if you forget to keep your purse under lock and key or you decide to store your medicine in whatever bottle that is convenient for you-so what.
You should not have to take special measures to prevent a thief from taking your prescription.
Period.
Indygrrl surely you can see, that to a person who’s cynical the incident might be questionable? Surely you can admit that the accounts from one thread to the other don’t mesh in places, and don’t add up in the logic department? Especially since you yourself admitted to aborting a plan to leave anti-inflammatories out for her to steal? (Word bolded to show that I do realize you didn’t carry through that day.) Whether you intended to appear this way or not, you gave the distinct impression of misdeeds, done either intentionally or not because you admitted to at least forming the plan to do so, if not to carrying it through. Can’t you see, how that would look to some people?
I don’t know why you haven’t used the alarm you bought, or found a way to rig up a camera. Those methods seem to me to be the best way to catch the theif. Whatever your true intentions, you were lacking in common sense in your actions, and your friend could have been made quite ill. Please be more careful from now on? I know, it sucks that you have to lock up your medicines like that, I suppose you could think of it as not unlike parenting a toddler? The drug fiend isn’t capable of looking after their bests interests after all.
I do see that you didn’t truly intend to hurt the person, but it’s also clear that you weren’t thinking and your inattention exacerbated the situation. It’s not as clear, whether you intentionally left other medicines within the drug fiend’s reach knowing she would likely steal them, or if you truly forgot because the accounts differ so much from one thread to the other. I’m very glad that no harm was done. Glad for you, and glad for her.
That’s all I’ve been saying, is that you should be much more careful of what you do, because of the impressions it creates, and the possible trouble it could make for you, not to mention the potential for someone to be hurt in a way you didn’t intend. Truce?
Indygrrl , was it “look alike” medication? Not that it really matters; I’m just curious.
But, seriously, use the alarm because I can’t wait to hear about the look on the thief’s face.
Indygrrl another question: Why don’t you continue to carry the empty bottle but keep your meds in something else, like your glasses case (if you have glasses…) or an old lipstick tube? Hopefully thief will think you’re out of painkillers if the bottle’s always empty, and you don’t have to carry them in your pocket.
Not really. The painkillers are kind of thick ovals with a greenish color, the anti-inflammatories look like Tylenol and the anti-depressants are yellow. So much for the confusion.
Ok fuckers, I’m setting up the alarm right now. We’ll see what happens. 
If you’re not going to use the alarm;
Why not just start a conversation with her about how ‘someone’ has been stealing money from your purse while your gone. See how she reacts, since she hasn’t stole any money yet maybe she will realise that;
A) you’re on to her, or
B) someone else is into your stuff and she doesn’t want to get caught in your purse at some point (for the meds) and get blamed for the stolen money also.
Another option;
C) leave purse out in the open for about a week with no meds in it. Hide them somewhere else. After about a week of not finding anything to swallow she’ll give up.
Finally
D) the best one - would be to rig up the alarm and give it a whirl. She aint a friend if she’s stealing from you.
Humm, isn’t it interesting how Czarcasm and Zabali have the same opinion, and yet Czarcasm was able to express his without sounding like a pompus, condescending ass.
Curious.
Ok, but what about what you said over here? Are we supposed to forget these words? How are we supposed to intrepret them, if not at apparent face value?
from post number 13 of the closed thread.
from post number 30.
from post number 43.
Can you see now how this would give a less than favorable slant?
Good lord. Are you this much of a pill in real life as well?
How about “really shocked at the lack of care another person was taking, and not being afraid to speak up for what I believed in” in place of “pompous, condescending ass”? I think maybe your perception of me has been previously colored, and maybe you aren’t able to look at my words in the most nuetral manner. We all have moments where we are just going to come off as a “bitch” of some degree, no matter what while we stand up for what we believe in. I do wish Indygrrl well, and have stated so with candor. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with what she did, and the impressions she gave. I’m sure you can appreciate that, can’t you?
On preview: Alice Not really, or not very often. I just recently had a friend thank me for being a “pill” to her then boyfriend because I could see he was an abusive ass, and wouldn’t put up with him trying to bully me. I have potential to be a “pill” but I’m not very often. I do actually work to get along, and not be offensive, but I also realize there are times when you just can’t avoid being abrasive to some degree and also stand up for what you believe in. I’m not an uber bitch, nor am I a mousy thing. I’m somewhere inbetween.
Well, Zabali, if you want to know how much the pills do or don’t look alike you can look them up:
Lorcet 10mg—the original pills that were stolen
Bextra–the anti-inflammatory
Serzone–the anti-depressant
You can look for yourself and see that the pills don’t really look alike. I’d google them for you, but I already know what they look like.
Well, I suppose it’s good that you can “Stand up for what you believe in” Zabali.
It’s nice to have a hobby.