Tom Lehrer

Finally got around to buying a Tom Lehrer CD. I, myself, write and perform funny songs and was quite aware that I had been doing myself a disservice in my procrastination about studying up on one of the old masters.

Growing up listening to Dr. Demento I, of course, had heard Tom Lehrer songs before but until I picked up Rhino’s Songs and More Songs (a single CD featuring the first two albums as well as some extra bits) I had never made a point to sit down, listen, and really pay attention.

Wow! incredible stuff all the way through. A truly inspired wordsmith, musician, and satirist and just damned funny!

So, I need to check out the 1965 album. How’s that one? Anyone got any cool info about him?

  • There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex.
    You may have heard about his odd complex.
    His name appears in Freud’s index
    ’cause he loved his mother. *

No trivia, but just to add that I grew up with his songs - that’s at least 32 years of constant listening, and I haven’t got tired of them yet.

If you’re old enough to remember the Children’s Television Workshop show The Electric Company on PBS, Lehrer wrote and performed music for a few things on that. What comes to mind immediately is his tribute to Silent E.

Good stuff.

bienville, did any of the “extra bits” you mentioned include songs from the 1953 10-inch album Songs By Tom Lehrer? Not bad, although maybe less universal (he has a fight song for Harvard, for example). I’ve nearly played my vinyl to death and wouldn’t mind replacing it.

Tom Lehrer is truly one of the masters.

His monologues and smart-aleck comments are as good as his songs are. Songs and More Songs has plenty of songs (duh!), but none of the other stuff, as far as I know.

I strongly recommend An Evening Wasted with Tom Lehrer. Some of the intros and live improvs are true comedy gold.

Like jjimm, I grew up listening to his stuff. I memorized “The Elements” early in my adolescent years. I think that was a crucial step in my development as a dementoid and total geek. :slight_smile:

There’s antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium…

My family has two of the 10" albums, including the Fight Fiercely song. However, I don’t have a turntable, and don’t know which branch of my family currently has the records.

Todd33rpm–Yeah, I know that Harvard song.

Fight fiercely Harvard
Fight, fight, fight!

And I remember that the album cover was orange with a line drawing on it. But, for the life of me, I can’t remember the title. I think it was Songs by Tom Lehrer.

But I’m going to be bugged by this until the title flashes into my pea-sized brain. And, of course, I’m too lazy to Google it.

I heard Garrison Keiller performing “Haunukah in Santa Monica” on Prairie Home Companion the other day, and according to www.tomlehrer.org, this is indeed one of his songs. How did I miss this one?

http://www.tomlehrer.org/covers/phc.html (short clip, obviously NOT Garrison or Tom)

screech “who does NOT poison pigeons, but still sings along” -owl

You’re still doing yourself a disservice. “That Was the Year That Was” is, hands-down, his best album. You should run out to buy it now.

It’s amazing that even his dated songs are still flat out hilarious. I wish I had the talent with rhyming he did. It’s hard to say what my favorite of his songs are, but three of the best are Poisoning the Pigeons in the Park, The Vatican Rag, and Alma. But as soon as I hit “Submit” I’ll change my mind.

I work at a place where Tom Lehrer worked a long time ago, before his successes in entertainment.

I also used to write and perform song parodies.

When I got played on ‘Dr. Demento’ about 15 years ago, I felt these two things qualified me to contact Lehrer and tell him how much I had always loved his work.

Let me just say that he is totally gracious to a complete stranger.

And that his ad libbed comments are at least as funny as his classic songs.

Tom Lehrer is a genius.

I’ve got his major releases on vinyl (Songs by Tom Lehrer (the re-released version, not the original…), More of Tom Lehrer, An Evening Wasted with Tom Lehrer (original and re-released), and That Was the Year That Was).

Here is a good discography site.

I assume That Was the Year That Was is the 1965 album you’re referring to. If so, a quick review by me (keep in mind, I’m 20. I have a great appreciation for his work, but I didn’t really live through a lot of what he sings about).

NOTE: I guess this could be considered spoilers, but it’s really more of a review. If you prefer to not know the songs on the album or what they’re about or what I think about them, skip the next bit.

It is, as you might imagine, rather topical to the time. The first song is “National Brotherhood Week,” which is still pretty applicable in this time of P.C.-ness. The album moves on into the “MLF Lullaby,” which I’m informed means “Multi-Lateral Force.” Again, pretty interesting given world events. Next is “George Murphy,” which I gather is about a Senator who was not well-liked (cracks about mistreatment of Mexicans and “1984”). Also an interesting crack about Ronald Reagan in the opening monologue. The next song is “Folk Song Army,” and while up to Lehrer’s standards, I consider it a bit of a throwaway. After this comes “Smut,” which is opened by “I do have a cause, though: Obscenity. I’m for it.” This is hilarious, extremely well-written and has some quite good lyricisim. Next is “Send the Marines,” another still-fitting song, but rather short and throw-away-ish in my opinion. Next is a calypso “Pollution,” which is a pretty clever song regarding the perceived pollution crisis at the time. Lehrer usually used a verse personallized to the city he was singing in at the time: “The breakfast garbage you throw into the Bay, they drink at lunch in San Jose,” for instance, in San Francisco.

On to side two! (the CD may be arranged differently)

“So Long, Mom” is subtitled “A song for World War III,” and is another mildly-funny, semi-throwaway song. “Whatever Became of Hubert” is a lament for Hubert Humphrey, including “Once he shone on his own, now he sits home alone and waits for the phone to ring.” Following that is “New Math,” a brilliant spoken-word (except for the chorus) explanation of the New Math (incidentally, I didn’t get this song at first…that’s the way I’d ALWAYS done it, and I didn’t understand why he felt it was so difficult…). Next is “Alma,” about (I’m spelling phonetically here…) Alma Mahler Gropius Werful. It’s a ballad, with each verse about one of her marriages to a famous European man. After that is “Who’s Next,” a short, fast-paced, pretty well-written song about nuclear proliferation. Following that is “Wernher von Braun,” a short Waltz about von Braun’s apparent lack of patriotism toward one country. Finally comes “The Vatican Rag,” which you’ve probably heard and I find pretty hilarious (though I’m not Catholic).

Anyhow, personally I feel that it’s a pretty strong album with some great songs. I’d put “New Math” at the top, followed by “The Vatican Rag,” “Smut,” “Pollution,” and “National Brotherhood Week.” Just my opinion though.

Upon preview, Scribble, you’re correct, it was the rereleased version of “Songs by Tom Lehrer.” And F. U. Shakespeare, I agree, a lot of the ad-libbed bits between songs are great. The live albums are a lot better, IMHO. What did you have played on Dr. Demento, if you don’t mind my asking?

I also forgot to mention the songbook Too Many Songs by Tom Lehrer, which has many of the favorites in it. The accompaniment is generally not exactly the same as he uses (he puts in a lot of embellishments and things which I am not talented enough to do), but anyone who’s good enough to play as well as he does can probably figure out how to put in the flourishes themselves.

As well as selected songs from the three albums, it also includes “Silent E” and “L-Y,” written for The Electric Company, and “I Got it From Agnes” which he didn’t record until 1980 in “Tomfoolery.”

Also didn’t mention before that screech-owl, you didn’t miss it really, it was first released just in 2000 on the “Remains of Tom Lehrer” box set.

I’ve been a Tom Lehrer fan since childbirth. A couple of years ago I bought the Remains of Tom Lehrer three CD boxed set that has pretty much everything he ever recorded. bienville if you don’t want to shell out for the full collected works then do at least get That Was the Year That Was as cckerberos said, otherwise you’re missing:

MLF Lullaby
Pollution
Wernher Von Braun
The Vatican Rag
National Brotherhood Week
(and on previewing, all the other songs Garfield lists)

It’s so tempting to quote from these but I don’t want to spoil the gags for anyone who’s not heard them yet.

I know all of his stuff backwards and it still makes me laugh, I’ve played his stuff to friends who’ve found it hilarious but are puzzled that I still find a song funny on the 400th hearing.

This site is useful for some of the songs on TW3 because it includes some notes on the lyrics. Very useful for ‘George Murphy.’

…Which I really need to buy one of these days; I’ve got all the vinyl but they lack the Electric Company songs, I Got It From Agnes, and I’m Spending Hanukkah in Santa Monica.

The last of these was, IIRC, written for PHC sometime in the early 90’s; I remember Ivy Austin belting it out (and doing an encore) on its premiere performance. Nice to see Garrison Keillor’s still using it.

I’ve got the songbook as well, but as noted many of the songs appear only in abbreviated versions.

The Rhino CD release Songs and More Songs by Tom Lehrer includes both the 1953 Songs by Tom Lehrer and the 1959 More Songs by Tom Lehrer. The “extra bits” are the 1960 orchestral recordings and a 199? recording of “I Got it From Agnes”.

After the first listen I had already determined to go buy That Was the Year That Was. Upon reading this Thread it seems I also must get hold of the live recordings (the reprinting of Tom’s original liner notes for Songs by mentions one of the live albums saying that the studio album is better because it is less expensive and you don’t have to listen to the author ramble on aimlessly between songs- HA! from the responses in this Thread it sounds like he couldn’t possibly review himself less generously!).

I, too, want to ask this!
I did submit my CD to the good Dr., but must admit I’ve never heard him play anything nearly as dirty as my songs.

A propos of nothing, this must be kismet, 'coz I was wandering around the apartment last night, singing “The Old Dope Peddler.” My wife just looked at me and asked in horror, “Who the hell wrote that?!”

This page has a dandy flash cartoon “video” for Lehrer’s “The Elements”.

Harborwolf and I are huge fans of his. I grew up listening to Tom Lehrer because my grandparents and mother were huge fans. I could sing all the words to The Masochism Tango when I was eight! When Harborwolf and I got together nine years ago, I made him listen to some of Lehrer’s recordings, and he’s a huge fan now too! I bought him The Remains of Tom Lehrer for his birthday this year. My favorites of his are “Clementine,” “National Brotherhood Week,” and “The Vatican Rag.” Harborwolf LOVES “Folksong Army.”

In the early 1990s, myself and two other guys (one a fellow Doper – I’m sure he’s reading this thread, so I’ll invite him to join in rather than name him) wrote and recorded song parodies. This was in the days before karaoke and other technology developments made it simple to add vocals to pre-recorded instrumental tracks, so you needed musicians to make parody recordings.

We got them played on local (Baltimore/Washington and north-central WV) radio, and sold one to ABC Radio Network (actually, we almost got signed, but that’s another story).

The one Demento played was a parody of the Romantics song “What I Like About You”. A tongue-in-cheek putdown of drinking, the lyrics listed all the dumb things drinking makes you do – each verse began with “What I Like About Booze”. It was tailor-made for safe controversy – every time it played, people would call complaining about this song that ‘glorified’ drinking, but the DJ would always piously point out that the song was actually anti-drinking.

Song parody is a lot like being a porn star – you can start out doing starring roles (i.e., get airplay), but serious musicians will refuse to take you seriously thereafter.