I just read this article in the
Independent, http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=543025 and I feel that I’ve just got to pit Tony Blair for telling the British people that we should REJOICE over the war in Iraq. As the article points out
What exactly does he think we should be rejoicing about!!!
That zombies just ate your brains so he’ll get away with all this bullshit.
Well you know, if we hadn’t have gone over there and invaded Iraq then they would have been launching that WMD arsenal at us in 45 minutes!
Oh wait. That was all a big fucking lie wasn’t it?
Oh, then obviously we should be rejoicing because we have deposed and arrested one of the main men behind the attacks on the World Trade Center, Al Qaeda and so many other terrorists!
Oh, now I remember. Saddam not only had nothing to do with OBL, but Bin Laden actually despised Saddam for being a “secular infidel”. Plus, though he supported terrorist actions, there is still no proof whatsoever that he funded them before the fact (yes, I am fully aware he gave money to widows of suicide bombers. Not before their attacks though)
Ok, then perhaps we should be rejoicing over the fact that despite the fact the war was predicated on lies and the bloodlust of a warmongering US President, the Butler Report claims that Tony and his cronies were acting on good faith and should be absolved of all blame? After all, if you can’t trust Lord Butler to tell us the truth, whether he’s one of Tony’s friends or not, who can you trust? :rolleyes:
Nah, fuck it. I can’t think of anything.
Incidentally, despite the fact that he’s lost all credibility with more than half the country finally wising up and realising he’s the lying shitstain that he is, why do I get the horrible sinking feeling that Labour are still going to be in power come the next General Election, much like that fucknugget Bush across the pond?
That’s a good term for him - he is the pungent skidmark on Bush’s underpants!!
Because the country is populated by idiots who vote Labour no matter what out of spite for the Conservatives and the belief that a vote for Lib Dem is a wasted vote.
If Blair ordered a nuclear attack on Wigan and other towns aroudn here, the population of the town would still vote Labour.
Grrrrr - my first thought (predictably enough, I suppose) was that it was jsut far too reminiscent of M. Thatcher. On reading the linked news site, I see, of course, that this was not lost on anybody. That’s something, I suppose.
I really don’t know how he gets away with all this. Then again, would I want Howard in charge? Not that my vote will count for much anyway, I suppose.
Are you sure? Because it seems to me that these guys have pinned down the cockroach vote.
The current issue of The Economist has a picture of Bush and Blair on the cover, with the headline “Sincere Deceivers.”
Quite apropos, IMHO.
I disagree most strongly with the thread title! You don’t want Blair in the deepest pit - too much trouble to fill it in afterwards. I reckon thirty feet should do the job …
Steve “voting LibDem as the least of three evils” Wright.
This makes for a depressing read. Timeline: The 45-minute claim
From
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to
The newspapers have front page stories about how Cyprus and even the UK is 45 mins away from destruction. No MP appears on TV or in a paper to correct these errors as the 45 min claim is about field weapons and not missiles with a range to hit any British troops outside of Iraq.
:rolleyes:
If I was British I would have been a Labour voter all the way. I was a fan of Blair in the past but IMO he has to go. No politician should be let away with this kind of BS when it comes to war. If you want to bring your country to war put the real reasons out there and let the country decide.
Lies, exaggerations, fear mongering and bullshit are not the foundations that a war should be built on.
When living in the UK, I vote LibDem on principle, and almost always have done.
However - and this is a really really big step for me - I am so unutterably pissed off with Tony Blair over Iraq that I would actually consider holding my nose and voting Tory, if I felt it had a chance of unseating him.
If Brown were in charge I’d have a different take on the matter.
Well, let’s look at it like this: The LibDems are a small party, with no experience whatsoever of running a country, I wouldn’t say a LibDem vote is wasted, but if the LibDems split the Labour vote (as they are likely to do), we get the Conservatives getting in by default. Quite frankly, the thought of Michael Howard running this country is fucking scary. No thanks.
Therefore, people will vote for Labour in a general election because of the following reasoning:
If we use our vote as a protest vote against Labour, and vote for the LibDems instead, its more than likely that neither Labour nor the LibDems will command a majority large enough to form a government. However, the Conservatives could. Do we want another Conservative government, given the current state of the Tory Party? Hell no! So, its a case of the lesser of two evils…
The Iraq war is about the only thing that I LIKE about Anthony Charles Lynton Blair, who in all other resoects is a faux-grinning, hair transplanted, face-lifted cuntmongering mouthbreathing fop.
He’s a prick. (I’m not over he moon about any other Labour politicians either).
It’s the whole argument about foxhunting that show him up for the cock-knocker that he is. It’s a relatively easy thing to hold an opinion on, and yet he abstains.
Owl - who lives in a Lab/tory marginal seat and will do his bit for Britain when the time comes.
While the rest of your analysis is probably correct in terms of numbers and electability, i’m not sure why you felt the need to put this in.
Firstly, parties that have decades of experience running countries (Labour and Tory, Democrat and Republican) have shown themselves perfectly able to fuck things up completely. What’s wrong with giving the new guys a shot?
Secondly, the famous British civil servants makes sure that much of the mundane. day-to-day stuff gets done, so it’s not like electing a new government is somehow going to cause everything to grind to a halt. Much of what happens in the everyday life of a country gets done in spite of politicians, not because of them.
Because, this is how a lot of voters think. That’s all.
You mean, you’ll be voting against the Right Honourable Member for Transylvania, then?
:: d & r really rather quickly ::
Harrrumph!
The constituency is Putney, so I have managed to bring myself to vote for David Mellor. After that anything is possible. (apart from voting for the sixth form politics of the Labour party - obviously)
And admitted it in public, yet! I salute your courage, though not your judgment …
(I’ve never forgotten Clive James’s comment on Mellor, after his - ahem - indiscretions: “He bestrode the political world like a Colossus, with one foot in his mouth and one foot in hers.”)
:eek: Wow! I was born and raised in a conservative family, but I’m not sure even I could manage that feat. Kudos owl for going to any lengths to stop New Labour.
Damned if I’ll vote for any of those three unwise monkeys.