Top Chef- 9/19 Blow by Blow

Looks like Hung is getting the “losers” edit.

You (and I) wish! Totally made top 4. :confused:

Yep I’d say that was a giant swing and a miss of a prediction.

I so wanted so see Hung go, but undercooked chicken? Bleah. Sara deserved it.

Hung rocks. I can’t figure out for the life of me what people don’t like about him. The guy works his ass off and is obviously the most accomplished chef on the show. I had to laugh when the other chefs wanted him to tell them how to cook the dish in the Quickfire and then got all snotty because he wouldn’t tell them. Of COURSE he’s not going to tell them. Figuring it out for themselves was the whole POINT.

Anyway. I think Hung is going to walk to the money and he deserves it. Go Hung.

Well, it is good to know pretty women can also be a Top Chef.

He just comes across as so rude, and condescending, that he’s not very likeable. He has the “all about me, me, me” attitude that isn’t very conducive to friendship. His food might be ok, although I’m not all that impressed with it, but his interpersonal skills suck. People skills are imperative for a chef, unless one intends to cook alone forever.

When Hung was told that his potatoes were not as they should be by one of the top chefs in the world, how did he react? Keep in mind that his experience making this dish was playing around with it 6 years ago. Did he say that he must have made them incorrectly? No, of course not. There could never ever be anything wrong with his cooking. It must have been because they sat out on the table too long.

We must be watching different shows because I’ve never seen him be rude. He is confident in his abilities but I’ve never seen him be condescending either. I think he knows he’s better than the others and maybe doesn’t respect them much as chefs but why should he?

I can also tell you from much experience working in kitchens that “people skills” are definitely not a requirement to be a chef. Most head chefs are arrogant asholes. Hung is about a 4 on the arrogant chef scale.

Hell, I think Casey came off as more arrogant tonight than Hung did.

He calmly explained why. It was an exceedingly nitpicky criticism anyway.

He didn’t make them incorrectly. His explanation about the plating was true. The potaoes fell because they had to sit a little too long. The cooking had nothing to do with it.

Plus, every single contestant on the show alway has some whiny excuse for every time they get criticised. Why does everyone jump all over Hund for defending himself?

And did you notice how Hung reacted when nobody had time to help him plate? He said “ok, no problem” and did it himself. When Hung doesn’t have time to help, the rest of them bitch and cry like there’s no tomorrow.

He’s a damn good chef, but if you don’t see him as rude, then you must be watching a different show. The episode where he dismissed the judge as narrowminded because the judge didn’t fully appreciate his genius? Maybe it’s just different definitions of rude and condescending.

How do you know he made them right. For that matter how does Hung know he made them right? As I said before, his experience with the dish was playing around with it 6 years ago. When a foremost expert in a field tells you that you did something wrong with something you had little experience you don’t argue.

Because Hung layers his protests with condescension.

He used that as an excuse as to why his potatoes were bad at Judges table!

Because I used to be a cook. He was right about why that dish falls. It’s not the preparation, it’s the serving time.

because he’s a classically trained chef. He knew what was wrong with them once they were served. He didn’t deny that they had fallen. Plus, they hadn’t really fallen that much, just like Sara’s chicken wasn’t really “raw.” Were talking extreme nit-pickery here.

The judge didn’t tell him that. He said the potatoes had fallen and Hung explained why.

I don’t see that. I think they just find chickenshit quibbles with his food because they don’t want to make it too obvious that he’s miles ahead of the rest of the field. I think he finds that confusing.

They asked him for the explanation and he he gave it to them. He didn’t say it was the others’ fault. He said it was because they were too busy and he was totally cool about it.

Even if I accept everything you say at face value, though, how is Hung any MORE arrogant than Casey or than CJ was (CJ was a much larger tool than Hung was) or than any number of other people who have been on this show? I think he’s a pretty likeable guy who’s really, really enthusiastic about cooking. Anybody who’s good at something is going to have an ego about it. Tiger Woods has an ego. Michael Jordan had a giant ego. Picasso had a giant ego. Having a big ego doesn’t men you can’t be good at something. If Hung is the best chef, then he’s the best chef. What does ego have to do with whether he should stay or go. It’s a cooking contest, not a friendship contest.

Where did you cook? Have you ever cooked potatoes Dauphine?

No, he said that they weren’t fluffy and light enough. Hung contends that they had fallen.

Now I know we aren’t watching the same show. This is the first elimination challenge that Hung has won. Casey is the one right now that is miles ahead of everyone else. She won 2 out of the last 3 challenges and was another favorite this show.

No, that’s exactly what he did. He said that his potatoes fell because he didn’t have anyone helping him plate.

How often do we see a clip of CJ talking about how much better he is than every other chef on the show, or how the judges are too closed minded for his dishes, or how the other contestants don’t know what they are doing? Never. We see that sort of behavior every show from Hung.

I’m sort of in the middle on my feelings about Hung. He is one of the best and it should be him and Casey in the finals because Dale and Brian have been very inconsistent. Yeah, he’s arrogant and so were others. I think he wasn’t critical of the judges this time around and I think it was because he respected them a lot. He explained why he thought his potatoes weren’t up to par and didn’t argue about it and no he did not blame the others, he said they were all too busy to help. But once he had finished his service he was right there helping the others. As for not giving them any tips on the Quickfire it was idiotic of the others to even expect him to give them any hints and then to get their panties in a wad over it was even more stupid.

Lots of places (starting with the Navy and then ten years or so afterwards at a number of places working up from family style restaurants to fine dining), and yes, I’ve made Pommes Dauphine. They’re really just glorified tater tots. Riced potatoes mixed with choux, rolled into balls and deep fried. It’s not that complicated but it does take some skill to get them perfectly light and puffy.

They were both right. They had fallen, but that was a serving problem, not a cooking mistake. Hung probably could have managed his extra half-hour better and nailed the serving time better but he wasn’t wrong in his explanation.

I saw CJ patting himslf on the back and calling himself a hero for “beating cancer” (which I always think is BS no matter who says it. Physicians and medical science can sometimes beat cancer, but the patient has nothing to do with it and it’s kind of obnoxious to award one’s self personal virtue for surviving it). The other contestants don’t know what they’re doing as well as Hung. The latest run with Casey is kind of contrived and (I think) represents a bit of tampering on the part of production because they want to get a hot chick into the finals. Even so, Hung has been more consistently in the top two or three of elimination challenges and has now won three of the last four challenges over all. I think we’re on course for a Hung/Casey F2 and I think when it’s ll on the line, Casey just doesn’t have Hung’s chops or education.

Note to Casey, by the way. The “vin” in Coq au vin is pronounced “van” as in Halen, not “von” as in Doom.

Praphrased from the “Dame Chocolate” episode, when told that his dished sucked:

“Was it too classic?”

pretty much wraps up what I don’t like about him.
He may or may not be good - he has definitely sent out some food that was not good. (His arroz con pollo, whatever the hell that was for Coldstone) and unispired (for which he also uses the word “classic.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means) he’s shown that he cannot lead (the skillet meal from hell), he’s a slob in the kitchen(which annoys the other chefs), and he’s hit or miss when it comes to “can play well with others.” If you’ve watched previous seasons, you know that is going to matter if he makes it to the finale.

Tonight, he didn’t bother me. He’s inconsistently annoying. Oddly, he congratulates himself on being annoying - which are among his most annoying moments.

Sara was just a matter of time, surprised she didn’t go sooner.

Wow! How delightfully sexist.

On their part, yes. But that’s television. You don’t think she got cast solely for her cooking ability, do you?