this looked fascinating! http://www.christiansentry.com/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/
here’s the first three.
this looked fascinating! http://www.christiansentry.com/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/
here’s the first three.
Well… I’m convinced.
On the question of “Earth is fine-tuned for life”: we know that there must be billions of planets in the universe, and most are probably not capable of supporting life. But consider the much smaller number of planets where life has started and organisms have evolved to the point of considering the philosophical question of whether their planet is “fine-tuned for life”: of course, any such planet must be “fine-tuned”, since if it weren’t, there wouldn’t be sentient beings on it thinking about the question.
All of those arguments have been shot full of holes repeatedly.
By directly consuming minerals, and organics created by inorganic processes. Such creatures exist even now. That particular bit of “fine tuning” is the result of life, not its cause.
No, it doesn’t.
(And not that there’s much point as you’ve cited an apologist website which uses the term “evolutionists”, thereby attempting to equate science with religion and in the same breath admitting that something can be discounted if it’s religious.)
1)“Irreducible Complexity” is a basic God of the Gaps style argument, it’s been falsified numerous times, and each time the IC proponents just try to kick the can a bit further down the road. “Okay… so we know how flagella, the eye, and many other structures evolved, but here’s one you haven’t totally explained (yet). Thus, God did it! Beat that, suckers!”
Earth is not “fined tuned” for anything, at all. In fact, the Oxygen Revolution exterminated a huge number of creatures living on the planet at the time. In point of fact, and to steal a quote, what you are doing is seeing a puddle and remarking in wonder that, wow, it must have been Created since look how the water fits perfectly into the contours and crevices of the hole that it’s in! Evolution proceeded such that life changed to be relative-best-fits for the niches it found itself in. No more remarkable, at its base, than water filling in a hole.
And no, it’s the same thing for physics although you have at least (seemingly accidentally) stumbled upon the Anthropic Principle. Your cite is also bullshit. No, time is most certainly not “constant”. Even a high school student should be well aware of Time Dilatation. Moreover there are extreme problems with our current state of knowledge. Try applying General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics to a black hole. Good luck. Nor has anybody claimed that things just fit together “by chance”. The quest for a ToE revolves around finding the underlying mathematics which make the universe work.
I’m not going to read any more since the first 3 are obviously awful, but you can try to defend them if you want. I don’t think that the Teeming Millions have savaged a poorly constructed Creationist argument in many a moon.
Has anyone ever noticed how perfectly a banana fits into a vagina? I bet it looks fascinating! Do you think they have an exhibit on that topic here?
Oh, and Jason, I’m not sure the mods like it when you shill for your articles hosted on your site, while pretending to have stumbled upon it. I’m not a mod, so feel free to ignore me.
This is not fascinating; it is silly.
Everything in there has already been debunked by genuine science. None of these claims are actually scientific, in nature–they are attempts to use (badly formed) rhetoric to make points with people who are not scientifically educated.
Sorry.
I have it on good authority that there is extensive research on just such a topic archived on the web. For science.
How dare you question a superior being.
This part nearly made me spit water on my monitor.
“Physics” has become plural. It’s a miracle!
I’ll start buying into this creation nonsense, but only if you protect me from the New World Order that the same site warned me about. I’m skeered.
But a mousetrap with several pieces missing will function perfectly as a paperclip, for example. Moreover, if one smears gum arabic onto a mousetrap it will catch mice, even if all the parts except for the back board are missing.
IOW a mousetrap is not in any sense irreducably complex.
Am I missing something here? A circulatory system without a heart circulates nutrients. That is what it is good for.
Well my friend, jellyfish have eyes, but they do not have a brain of any sort to interpret the signals.
I guess that means that God fucked up. Right?
Why don’t you look at the thousands of organism that *have *half formed wings. Organisms such as beetles that use their half-formed wings as sheild, or ostriches that use them as displays.
Once again, the actual existence of all these cretaures with half-formed wings must mean that God fucked up.
Not much of god, is he?
Ahh, no.
Once again, there are millions of species that do not have matching male and female reproductive organs. Many of them lack reproductive organs altogether.
Once again, the actual existence of all these creatures without matching male and female reproductive organs must mean that God fucked up.
This is a pretty crapsack god that you are worshipping.
Not even remotely true. You might be able to stretch it to say that it eliminates anything that is detrimental, which is almost exactly the opposite of what you just wrote.
It doesn’t. Individual organism either live or die. Evolution doesn’t produce advancement. Just change
So did the feces I excreted this morning. The astonishing shades and contours. Surely the work of God!
Good grief… I clicked through to the link and the ‘proofs’ actually somehow manage to get worse.
There is no such thing as “the Law of Biogenesis”, at least not as you’ve presented it. Pasteur said that fully formed organisms cannot arise from nothing. But we have a very good idea of how abiogenesis may occur. I’d advise you to look up information on proteanacious microspheres, for example.
The Flintstones was not a documentary. No, seriously.
There is no actual doubt that humans and dinosaurs were separated by a span of time that’s large even in terms of geological time. To say nothing of the fact that not only do we have transitional fossils, but we also have pre-dinosaur fossils. This is also not in dispute and even bastions of the Liberal Atheist agenda have reported on examples.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The 2nd law only applies to a closed system. And on the whole, the amount of free energy in the universe is indeed decreasing. But life can quite aptly be described as negative entropy. Just like your freezer can make ice, so too can certain systems locally counteract entropy. But just like your freezer, there is always a net increase in entropy overall.
Yes, mutations can and do create new information. No, information is not only the result of intelligence, that’s simply fiction.
This is just another God of the Gaps style dodge, and the more we discover about cognitive neurology, the more we are learning exactly how humans go about constructing what we know of as “awareness”. I’d recommend you read The Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat.
There are many solid answers for the development of language and languages, as well as evolutionary benefits to population groups from having distinct grammar, syntax, pronunciation and vocabulary. Nor is language truly unique to humans. Language exists along a continuum, and other animals have and use their own methods. While they do not engage in Time Binding in the way that humans do, nor do they (appear to) have the ability to work in abstractions as humans do, your argument is about as rational as declaring that since prions do not exhibit the amount of biological complexity as protists, that protists must have been Created.
Now you’re just reaching, having abandoned any pretense of scientific accuracy. Even ignoring the fact that many “prophecies” were written after the fact, or were vague enough that they could apply to multiple events, or did not come to pass at all, that still would not prove Creation. There is no functional way to tell that the Oracle of Delphi’s “prophecies” and ancient Jewish “prophets” got their magic from the same or different sources. Even if we accepted that prophecy was real, there’s no reason to think that it’s not Apollo still messing around with us.
Your finger will fit inside your nose, but not your ear; can’t explain that!
Hmmm. One post at 7:09 PM; Last Activity at 7:09 PM. I rather suspect that this is the only post we’ll see from this guy.
He had to go, his planet needs him.
And…there are invertebrates with circulatory systems and no hearts.
(I loved my old bio textbook, where the author wrote about one, where the blood gooshed from one end of the critter to the other, and then back, “…like the characters in a Marx Brothers movie.”)
It’s a miracle!