Isn’t this a huge contradiction ? I mean, pink of course does not have an innate womanly nature (quite demonstrably since shit got switched some decades ago, it’s a whole thing), but as of right this minute pink=girly girl. Or pink=faggot, depending on the context I suppose. The point is : pink isn’t gender neutral in any way, shape or form in our current society.
Plus this whole debate is about the presence or removal of the Venus symbol from the packaging of one brand, so self-evidently pink isn’t **it **:o
If someone is going to blow a gasket because they think a particular color has a gender, I really don’t want to listen to anything that person has to say. Pink is commonly associated with “female” but pink is not the exclusive domain of women or females. I see guys wearing pink all the time.
Broomstick is correct. I am currently in possession of panty liners in blue wrapping, maxi pads in yellow wrapping, and tampons in purple wrapping. I do have a box of pink-wrapped panty liners (Kroger Brand), which is why they were the first thing to come to mind. But most products on the market are not this color. The vast majority of sanitary products are not girly or womanly. They are close to neutral if not wholly neutral.
Look, if it’s a sincere case of mistaken identity, I could understand, but the fact that you repeated it makes that seem less like a mistake. And why all the personal jabs anyways? I don’t think they’re really much better directed at UrbanRedneck than me.
Some women feel since we’ve got to lug those things around, they might as well look nice. If you like color coordinating things, why not coordinate tampon wrapping with your handbag? Some women don’t carry handbags and the little plastic wrapped package is great for a backpack or jacket pocket. Also the colorful little wrapper makes it slightly less obvious what the object which is a good thing for a younger girl already nervous over menstruating.
They’re for different sizes. At least the brand I buy (Tampax). Orange for Extra Super, Green for Super, Yellow for Regular, Purple for Light. Same goes for pads. Makes it easier to grab and go when it comes to suiting up, and a box with an assortment is good if your flow isn’t the same every day.
I shared how I came to realize internalized sexism gave me hang ups about my own period and a desire to distance myself from it’s “womanly” connotations. Then I called my younger self immature. Not transmen.
Maybe you can’t relate to this feeling. Maybe you can’t see its relevance to the topic at hand. Maybe you’re a man, and you’re more sympathetic to the feelings of other men than to what women have to say. Maybe you just want to be combative for no reason. I don’t know. But I figured it’s worth sharing this viewpoint because it might help folks understand why some feminists lose patience with men complaining about female symbols on feminine hygiene products.
Wait, I thought you wanted discourse? Making fun of the OP isn’t really all the mentally stimulating for me, sorry.
You carve where you can, until you can’t. Which is kind of what we’re talking about right now.
I’m doubtful that there is any real market incentive for Always to change how sells its products. If pink, yellow, and other “girly” colored sanitary napkins get bought more often than whatever colors would be tailored for men, then that is what the market will support. I think it’s a mistake for transmen to see exclusion in this. Men can purchase “girlie” stuff without losing their identity, just like women can purchase Gillette “The Best that Men Can Be” shavers everyday for their hairy bodies.
But we’ve established that they don’t, not really. This is just about saying “men can have periods, did you know that ?” to whoever’s listening. T
Obviously. And just as obviously tying one’s identity to consumer brands or products is… not how you’re going to be fine in the head. But, again, this is not what it’s really about.
Hey, I am totally OK with these things coming in different colors. I am totally OK with color coordination. Options are GOOD.
I do find it sad that young women (still - because they also did in my day) find menstruating to be embarrassing. By which I mean more embarrassing than other bodily functions or hygienic things. Sure, people tend to be discreet about speaking of pissing and shitting in polite company (among close friends and family perhaps more blunt). But nobody is embarrassed about brushing their teeth, and young women menstruating should be no more embarrassed than young men starting to shave (in both cases, they need to make sure they aren’t leaving the facilities a mess when they’re done). Or perhaps young women menstruating should be no more embarrassed than young men having a wet dream. You may not want to share the details with your grandparents, but none of it should be a cause for embarrassment in an ideal world.
“Some women have prostates?” Whoever wrote this is definitely anatomically challenged. Would some kind and well informed soul enlighten me as to where this errant gland would be placed in a woman?
Please, educate yourself on issues of gender even a *little *bit. Open an “Intro to gender studies 101” textbook, read an academic paper on the subject of gender or gender expression, Google what doctors and shrinks and anthropologists or even historians have to say and write about gender, shit even watch some bargain bin youtube vulgarization video, I don’t know, anything.
But you’re not going to be able to meaningfully contribute to this conversation from a point of smug, mean-spirited ignorance.
You can disagree with or counterpoint the arguments; quibble with the data or the conclusions derived from the data by the scientific community… but you kinda have to know what they are first before your disagreement has any merit whatsoever. Reason doesn’t run on unexamined gut feelings. Socrates told me that, so shout out to my boy Biggie S, much love. Allow yourself to doubt that you already hold all the answers and know all there is to know. It’s step one in learning anything.