Traveling in North America

Well, if the OP is going to be here for some time, ey would have to get a one-way rental unless ey didn’t mind making an extra trip to return the car. I can see scenarios where renting a van one-way would make sense, though.

OTOH, as another poster mentioned, I wonder whether buying a car might make more sense? I’m not sure whether decent used cars are available for less than $5000, and I have no idea how insurance, drivers’ licvenses would work for overseas visitors in this case. (I don’t even know how long the OP is going to be here… 3 months or 6 months is the usual tourist-visa time; anything more requires special permission. Which the OP may already have.)

I really hadn’t grasped that. Awesome!

Unfortunately, I can only stay for two months. I will probably be living somewhere on campus. The university seems to be pretty close to the city center, so I don’t think I will need a car. I’m probably going to pick up a used bicycle once I’m there.

I don’t think I will have much spare time anyway.

Only two months? I thought you’d be here for a year or something. Will you be living in prepared (furnished, etc) accomodation? That will dramatically cut down the amount you need to bring, and give you more flexibility.

When will you be here? If during the summer, you won’t need to bring your parka or winter boots, either.

I’d love to, but unfortunately staying any longer would be detrimental to the timely completion of my degree. The course of studies for veterinary medicine is regulated very strictly over here and I am on a tight schedule already with all the internships and courses I want to take.

I have not made any arrangements for my accomodation yet, I’m sorry. I am waiting for my contact at the University of Saskatchewan to get back to me on that and related topics.

I will probably be there from the end of June to the end of August next year.

To keep this in GQ territory: What to expect from the weather in July and August?

Hot and summery. You picked the ideal time. :slight_smile: Here’s Wikipedia on Saskatoon:

And here’s the the Weather Network on Saskatoon. It looks like it peaks at warmer than Toronto, which isn’t surprising (that mid-continental climate); but average humidity is less, and there is a modest amount of rain.

Keep in mind that those statistics are averages. The page for Toronto says average humidity is around 69%, but we get wretched hot 90%-humid smoggy days when the moist air comes up from the Gulf of Mexico and leaves everyone gasping and sweating. Saskatoon is further north and drier, so hopefully that won’t happen as much there.

I have no idea what Saskatoon is like for biting insects; there are parts of Ontario where you basically have to wear screen suits to keep from being eaten alive by blackflies and deerflies and mosquitoes. But that’s not in the cities. Usually.

I would agree with those who say don’t look at a flight to Regina as a way to save money - neither Regina nor Saskatoon are airport hubs - Winnipeg and Calgary are. The cost to fly to Regina is usually about the same as the cost to fly to Saskatoon.

I’d also agree that once you hit land, whether Toronto, Calgary or Winnipeg, best bet for flying is to to switch to WestJet. It’s generally cheaper than Air Canada, as it’s a discount. The drawback to that is that it can have some pretty up-and-down flight plans on long flights, but a flight from Calgary or Winnipeg to Saskatoon would likely be direct (or it may touch down briefly at Regina).

I’ve done the drive north of Superior a few times, and also the train trip. They’re fun, but I don’t think I saved any money on them. (One drive I did, but that was because there were two of us to share the costs.) I’d highly recommend either option to see Canada (about a third of it, east-to west), but I doubt that you’ll save much money. I think air travel is still the most cost-effective for individual long-haul travelling.

The reason for high air fares, even under de-regulation of air travel, is that we have a small population with a huge country. Our population density is the lowest in the G7. We’re the second largest country in the world, with roughly a tenth the population of the U.S. We don’t get many economies of scale in our travel.

For instance, Regina to Saskatoon are about 275 km apart. There’s a good, divided highway between them, with a posted rate of 110 km. And there’s no other major centre on that highway - I think the largest town between them would be Davidson, at about 1200 souls. I’ve done that drive many times, since I appear in court in Saskatoon as well as Regina, plus teaching at the university - and it means a day out of your schedule.

For the OP, get used to the idea that if you want to travel from Saskatoon to any other major centre, it will take a lot of time. However, if you want scenery, fishing, swimming, hiking, canoeing - that’s all just a short drive away from the city centre of Saskatoon. And if you really want to see wilderness, make sure you take a day or two and go north - up to La Ronge or Waskiseu or Meadow Lake.

As for weather in Saskatoon in the summer - congrats! Saskatchewan is beautiful in the summer. It gets hot, but it’s a dry heat, that normally cools down at night. If you’re outdoors a lot, you’ll need heavy duty sunscreen - I typically use SPF 30 (or whatever the rating is to absolutely block UV), because I’ve got a fair complexion. You’ll also need bug spray with DEET, because of the mosquitos. They used to be just a nuisance, but West Nile has cropped up in Saskatchewan, so it’s now recommended as a health measure as well. In a normal year they’re not too bad, but if you’re doing practical vet work, I assume you’ll be around the farm animals. (I drove past the U. of S. campus just the other day, and was amused, as always, by the cows in the field in the middle of town. The U of S campus is one of the largest in North America, because of all the agricultural land that is included in it, although not all of it is in the city of Saskatoon proper.)

All in all, I hope you have a great time in Saskatoon, and that even with your rigourous studies (the vet school had the rep when I was at U. of S. of being the most difficult program, beating out meds), you’ll find some time to enjoy our beautiful province.

I salute your spirit of adventure, Fish Cheer; I spent my formative years in a smaller Saskatchewan town, and I have always thought that every Canadian should, at least once in their life, experience a trip across the prairies at ground level. The sense of space is incredible; the First Nations, who used to follow the buffalo heards across the plains much like whalers following pods, had an expression that you could look behind you and see where you had camped yesterday–and look ahead and see where you would be camping tomorrow.

If you can mix air travel to, say Calgary, and then do a one-way car rental, that might be the best of both worlds. Greyhound Bus travel is pretty hardcore (but it certainly would be an “experience!”). I blush already for the appalling lack of rail passenger service in Canada–as a European you will be amazed at this! If you do a part of the trip by car, you will get the full “ground-level” experience, as well as having the luxury of being able to stop and get out where and when you wish (something you can’t do on the bus). Not only is this friendlier on the bladder, but when you see something interesting or iconic–say one of the few remaining giant wooden grain elevators that used to dot the horizon like tall ships on a golden ocean–then you can stop and investigate). http://www.ucalgary.ca/~gkconnol/Saskatchewan/BurtonLake.jpg

Summer will be hot, sometimes a little muggy–but if you are lucky, you will see the most spectacular electrical storms of your life. You will learn about Deet, and the ravenous mosquito, as well.

Some interesting Saskatchewan heritage that you may want to study before going:

http://www.wanuskewin.com/

http://parkscanada.pch.gc.ca/lhn-nhs/sk/walsh/index_e.asp

http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/endangered_stones.html

http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/look_its_something_vertical.html

http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/canada1891/2frame.html

http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/sk/princealbert/index_e.asp

http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/plains_indian_city.html

Sadly, the one draw-back to coming in the summer is that you can’t go curling.

I can confirm that if you’re living on or near campus, you won’t need a car. Walking or cycling to downtown is very possible. Lots of students actually live in the area just north of downtown and walk to class by coming across the University Bridge. I believe, though, that the ag stuff is generally on the more easterly parts of campus, and it’d be a bit of a hike from there. No problem on a bike though.

To be a little more concrete about the weather, expect daytime highs between low 20s and high 30s and nightime lows in the teens. When it goes above 30, people will start talking about how hot it is. It’s usually pretty dry, but the last two summers have been oddly cool and damp.

Dunno what sort of vet medicine you’re interested in, but if you’d like to see some bison, I can hook you up. My brother has a few of them.

Okay, you guys. You’ve sold me on a return visit, and this time I won’t be hurrying through on the way to Edmonton. :slight_smile:

I concur with everyone about the beauty of the prairies. Yes, it can be disconcerting at first, but you get used to it.

Trees are planted around towns; you can locate a town at a great distance by the clump of trees around it; as you drive, they rearrange themselves on the horizon, and you can actually navigate by them to some extent.

And the sky is amazing.

That link of Rodd Hill’s about the peopling of Canada, where it shows pictures of wooden buildings in new raw towns on the prairies: keep in mind that all that wood was imported.

(Man, I can’t believe we drove Toronto to Edmonton in only four days. We must have been insane. We did Toronto to Flint, Michigan the first day; Flint to Minott, North Dakota the second and third days driving non-stop round the clock and taking four-hour shifts; and Minott to just south of Edmonton the third day, arriving at 11:30 PM. There were six of us, three in each of two cars; one person drove, one sat up front and navigated and kept the driver awake, and the third slept in the back.)

And about 800 km more than the distance from Milan to Minsk. :slight_smile:

Before I started this thread, I had already been very happy about the opportunity to go to Canada. But with the awesome input you gave plus the reading I’ve done in the meantime (thank you for the links, Rodd Hill), I’m almost getting giddy with anticipation. This will be a great experience! Once again: thank you!

By any chance, is there anything you always wanted to know about Bavaria that I could help you with? :slight_smile:

Nah, enough Canucks have been there to realize you don’t really wear lederhosen. :wink:

Of course, you realise that we all now want to visit you when you are in Saskatoon… :smiley: If you do do a roadtrip, this may come in handy: Large Roadside Attractions.

The first thing that comes up in my mind when someone mentions Bavaria is Beer. :slight_smile:

But then I went to university in Waterloo, Ontario, which has a large German influence, and a matching Oktoberfest. (Its neighbouring city of Kitchener was known as Berlin until a period of xenophobia during the First World War.)

However, I do not drink alcohol. Would this be a problem socially if I went to Bavaria, or would Bavarians just mutter ‘look at the crazy foreigner’ and think no more of it?

I can bring some. :slight_smile:

Not at all. After all, the stereotypical Bavarian does not care what other people do.

But that aside, many people don’t or can’t drink alcohol (because they’re designated driver for the night, for example), so non-alcoholic drinks are available everywhere (and it’s required by law, or so I’m told). On top of that, there’s a number of non-alcoholic beers* that are actually quite tasty.

I don’t recommend going into one of the Bierzelte on Oktoberfest stone-cold sober, though. The drunks won’t mind, but I’m sure you would. If you enjoy carnival rides, then there’s more fun to be had outside, anyway.

  • ok, technically, they do contain minute amounts of alcohol, between 0,02% and 0,5%

Weeeelll… quite a number of people do, given the right occasion. I do not own any at present, but I probably will get a pair soon - you gotta buy anti-cyclical. :slight_smile:

Incidentally, if you want to use Zoom Airlines to get across the Atlantic, you might want to make reservations soon. I was just looking around on their site at a possible trip Toronto to Paris, as part of the journey to a conference in Italy at the end of July, and half the economy seats were already sold out.

bumping an old thread to ask Fish Bicycle if he’s still planning on studying in Saskatoon this year?

Fish Cheer–as illustrated above the single biggest mistake Euros make in North America is underestimating distances.
In Europe, travel 100 kilometres, & you are in another country, with differant languages, laws & customs.

In NA, travel 100 klics, & you haven’t even left the same State/Province.

Always doublecheck your distances, using the map scale.

As well as Zoom, check www.flyglobespan.com for London and Manchester to Calgary.