Oh we know what happened alright…and no need for Mrs Cleo to tell us what will happen next:
The Unfortunate Incident Protocol. How the powerful dodge their own bullets
Fortunatly for them, your Gov can counts on ‘patriotic’ imbecils like you to keep swallowing their lies.
You don’t really believe that, do you? Do you really think a lot of soldiers join up thinking to themselves, “I will do this because other people can’t or won’t do it”?
From my own experience and from what I’ve heard from many, many sources, a great many people join the armed services mainly because they want a job, or want to pay for college. Some join because they like adventure; some because they’re patriotic. Many join because their fathers are soldiers and they feel they have to live up to their example. I’ve never met anyone who joined because s/he thought, “All those other people are unwilling or incapable, I’d better sign up.”
Maybe this is out of line for the pit (I don’t come in here much) but
cite?
That, and the money blows.
Neither the speed of the car, nor the following of the rules of engagement have yet been at all established. That’s what the enquiry will be for.
Oh, BTW - that request above for a cite is not meant to be snarky. While I can’t say I’ve seen or paid attention to RM’s posting history, I don’t recall offhand any posts that display a seething hatred for America.
Maybe RM hates Bush & his cronies and the policies enacted by this crew of right wing zealots, but you’ll have to show me one hell of a cite to say he hates America the people and America the nation as much as Bin Laden hates Israel.
Heck, I hate Bush pretty severely, and I love this country more than you can possibly imagine.
That’s probably why. just do a search of his posts to the Pit. You should find all the cites needed. Hint: it would be a LOT faster to scan the Pit posts that don’t denegrate America/Americans in some way.
Others have already addressed the second clause in this statement; I’d like to dispute the first.
Our army is a “volunteer” army, in a sense: everyone there agreed to be there.
But they have not volunteered to do the job they’re doing. Sure, some of them are volunteering–some of them return for a second tour of duty. But many, many, many of them are there under duress, because they’re not allowed ot leave. And even the ones who return voluntarily are returning in large part because their friends are there under duress, and they don’t want to leave their friends behind: many of the more-or-less volunteers are volunteering to protect their friends, not volunteering to do the job.
They’re in a shitty situation. Not as shitty as the situation of Iraqi civilians, but still a shitty situation. Suggesting that across the board they’re volunteering to be there is IMO inaccurate.
Daniel
Don’t be rediculous. We can’t have facts mucking up the conclusions that people have already jumped to!
Hmm…I DO spend lots of time in here, and I don’t see it. Hating the Bush Administration all of the goddamn idiotic, shortsighted, stupid, mucksucking, unethical things it’s done in the last four years isn’t the same thing as hating America.
It’s not? Can’t they bring in an ammendment or something?
“AND all of the goddamn idiotic, shortsighted, stupid, mucksucking, unethical things it’s done in the last four years…”
Yeah, I didn’t really have to repeat the whole sentence. I just figured I deserved a reward after a long day at work…
Well, I suppose my first cite could be the quote in the OP. How does that opinion and world-view have anything whatsoever to do with any political party? They’re Americans he’s hammering on, not the Administration.
OTOH, maybe I should do a futile search to see if there’s any mention of soldiers from other countries that aren’t there because Bush is Ruler Almighty of those countries as well? Seems that’s the only thing wrong with those armies. I’ve never seen anything they’ve done wrong or mistakes made.
There are SO FEW military members of any nation other than the US or UK in Iraq that it’s statistically unlikely for anyone BUT an American or British soldier to do something like the above. And the whole thing IS Bush’s fault because it was BUSH who lied and schemed to attack Iraq in the first place. If anyone but Bush were president, we wouldn’t be OVER there right now.
Actually, moron, the quote in the OP is referring specifically to a bunch of US soliders who shot at an allied convoy, killing one person and injuring others.
Yes, they are Americans, but it is not referring to all Americans.
Moron? Good to see your skills are growing every day. The quote in the OP was only one of many instances where it’s the American that’s doing wrong, not any particular scenario or party in charge. I took it to mean one example of Rashak’s scripted rants, but maybe the OP was only speaking of that one time. Doesn’t matter as you’ve told me what we’re allowed to write about. :rolleyes:
Nobody can be this dense, it’s unpossible!
I’ve been spending too much time with Al Sharpton. 
Seems so.
Rather than argue whether the administration or the soldiers are culpable how about dropping the false dilemma entirely and place the blame on the Italians for not mentioning anything about it to the CIA? Maybe they just didn’t want to come off as
douchebags for funding Al Qaeda with another $1mn with which to buy arms from France. RedFury, take a valium. This anger will kill you.