Trillian window issue (might apply to any Windows app)

I had a chat window open in Trillian, and somehow managed to grab the title bar and move the window up so high on the screen that I cannot grab the title bar again to be able to move the window anywhere else. This persists after closing the window and reopening it, stopping and starting the program, and rebooting.

I suppose this must be in a .ini file or something somewhere. I’ve been through the .ini files and don’t see anything about window position.

Anybody know how to deal with this in Trillian, or a generic solution for any Windows app?

What happens when you change your screen size with Trillian open? (Start - Settings - Control Panel - Display - Settings (tab)) Change the size and if the window is accessible then, move the window to the middle and change the size back.

I know that doing this jacks up my desktop arrangement, perhaps it’ll move your window around.

At the top left of the window is an icon that is the window menu. Use the keyboard shortcut to open this menu (I think it’s Alt + Space). The window menu appears; in it is a selection for “Move…”. Select this, and then you can use the arrow keys to move the window around until the bit you want is visible.

Disclaimer: I’m not ion a Windows machine and may be mis-remembering the details of this. But I have done it, for more or less the same reasons that the OP describes.

Now, if anyone could tell me how to do this on a Mac…

Every now and then I get a window that was sized for my big screen, and it reappears when I’m on the smaller laptop screen only. And not only is the title bar off the top and inaccessible, but the resize point is off the bottom and inaccessible! That’s one gripe I have with the Mac OS X user interface: why aren’t the windows resizable all the way around?

Sunspace’s suggestion will work: hit alt-space, then hit ‘m’, and use the arrow keys to move the window. Hit enter or click the mouse button when you want to stop moving it.

An extension to this trick, for when the window is completely off the screen (so you can’t tell which direction you need to move it), is to hit alt-space, then, ‘m’, then hit an arrow key (e.g. “up”), then start moving the mouse. The window will jump to wherever the mouse is. (note that you have to move it once with an arrow key or this doesn’t work)

Hey, that worked! :cool: Thanks!

I wish there were one place to go to for all those undocumented features…

None of these features are undocumented. See Keyboard shortcuts in Windows - Microsoft Support for keyboard shortcuts.

The problem is the complete user documentation for Windows itself is 2 or 3 shelf-feet of books. So nobody buys or reads it. The maintenance & operations documentation for IT pros is about 6 shelf feet, and the innards documentation for programmers is another 10-12 shelf feet. And that covers one version of Windows. There are now about 10 supported versions, plus the now-unsupported legacy versions.

Then there is the documentation for their end-user products, such as Word, etc. And for their professional products such as databases, email managers, CRM systems, etc.

All of that is published, all of it available for free on Microsoft’s web site. What’s really lacking is a table of contents for the end-user documentation. It appears they’ve assumed nobody will read that stuff end-to-end, and they’re relying on you using search to find the snippet you need at the moment.

Too Cool… Now, if I can just remember this…