If an entry is incomplete or meaningless without the link, then the information that is only in the link is an essential part of it. But if already complete, then the window dressing expands it beyond the scope if “trivia” which is supposed to be succinct. If EH could not find the connection in my play, the link would seem an obvious place to look further.
In short, if a poster includes a link, it it is the poster’s intent for that to be a part of the trivia. How would we know otherwise?
Speaking only for myself in this thread: if I include a link with my post, it verifies the content of my post. I do this especially if the post contains some obscure fact.
For instance, on Page 1 of this thread, I had this post:
Had I not included the link, it’s entirely possible that other posters might have thought I was making up that statement.
Bullitt often includes maps. Other posters include links to images of what’s been referenced in the post.
Sorry, jtur88, but I’m not going to click on a link in your post to find the connection to the previous post. And I will continue to include links in my post for the reason listed above. And my posts will, I hope, always contain a relatively obvious relation to the previous post.
Agreed. A link is only additional information or confirmation, not a jumping-off point for the next post. Clicking on one is purely optional, after all.
In play:
Ernest Hemingway often wrote about bullfighting, including in The Sun Also Rises and Death in the Afternoon, and is thought to have done more than anyone to popularize the annual Running of the Bulls in Pamplona. He only went into the bullfighting ring a few times himself, though, and later admitted he wasn’t very good at it.
In 1919, with no other immediate job prospects, Ernest Hemingway moved to Toronto, as a family friend had offered him a job there. Hemingway worked as a freelancer and staff writer for the Toronto Star newspaper until early 1920, when he returned to the U.S.
In the CBC television series Frankie Drake Mysteries, set in 1920s Toronto, Ernest Hemingway (as a reporter for the Star) is a recurring character; Hemingway is played on the series by Steve Lund.
This is pretty much my view on it, as well. I try hard to make the connection to the previous post pretty obvious, and if I include a link, it’s for illustration or proof of what I’ve already explicitly written in my post (or, sometimes, just for entertainment value). And, I won’t click on a link in the previous post in order to find a connection to make.
That is a different game. Re-read the OP where the rules laid out by Sampiro are copied.
Speaking for myself, I don’t want to click on a link to find out what the trivia is. And I think that’s what others are saying too.
The words in the post have to be self-evident and stand on their own, providing:
Playing off of kenobi 65 —
On January 6, 1919, President Theodore Roosevelt died in his sleep at the age of 60.
I’ll play by whatever rule y’alll want. But I will continue to compose posts so that they never need links, and Ive explained why…
In play:
William Shakespeare died April 23, 1616. That fact alone is not trivia, but Cervantes’ death the same day is. (Some dispute the dates.)
Cardenio is a lost play attributed to William Shakespeare and John Fletcher. It was probably based on an episode in Cervantes’s Don Quixote involving the character Cardenio, a young man who has been driven mad and has fled to the mountains.
Gregory Mcdonald (1937 – 2008) was an American mystery writer whose most famous character was investigative reporter Irwin Maurice “Fletch” Fletcher. Mcdonald wrote 11 novels in the Fletch series. The first of these novels, simply entitled ‘Fletch’, won the Best First Novel award by the Mystery Writers of America. That book was made into a 1985 movie starring Chevy Chase as the title character.
In the 1985 crime comedy Fletch, Chevy Chase at one point impersonated famous Russian-American composer Igor Stravinsky over the phone, using a hoarse, old-man’s voice. Stravinsky died in 1971.
Chevy Chase MD is a town bordering the northwest edge of Washington DC. Several settlements nearby, and one neighborhood of DC, call themselves Chevy Chase. The name “Chevy Chase” is derived from “Cheivy Chace”, the name of the land patented to Colonel Joseph Belt from Charles Calvert, 5th Baron Baltimore on July 10, 1725. A “chace” is a name for hunting grounds, and there was a border raid in the Cheviot Hills hunting grounds in the Scottish Uplands.
From Cheviot, came “Chevy”.
There is a Cheviot Hills in Los Angeles. Map >> Google Maps
There is a Cheviot Mountain in Alberta CAN, east of Jasper National Park. Map >> Google Maps
Chevy Chase (the actor) was born Cornelius Crane Chase. He is a 14th generation New Yorker and his family history is a who’s who of social elite, including musicians, opera singers and NYC mayors. His family line dates back to Mayflower travelers including William Brewster, which means that he and I are related.
Salmon P. Chase was one of a small number of people who have served in all three branches of the U.S. Government:
Chase was also Governor of Ohio (1856-1860), and was the namesake of the Chase National Bank (a predecssor of JPMorgan Chase), though he had no involvement in the bank.
The small town of White Salmon WA lies at the mouth of the White Salmon river as it empties into the Columbia River (map >> Google Maps). It is located in the Columbia River Gorge, a canyon up to 4,000 feet deep stretching for 80 miles near the west end of the river as it nears the Pacific Ocean. White Salmon WA lies across the river from Hood River OR.
White Salmon was named after the White Salmon, a now-extinct species of salmon that lived in the Columbia and surrounding area.
The Columbia River gorge has the highest concentration of waterfalls in the country. 90 of these waterfalls are on the Oregon side of the river. Probably the most famous is Multnomah Falls, which has a total drop of over 600 feet.
(And well worth a visit if you’re in the area! The hike to the top about did me in, but it was worth the effort.)
I was there last Thanksgiving and the trail was too icy to hike.
In play:
Those waterfalls on the Oregon side of the gorge are almost all fed by snow melt from nearby Mount Hood, 11,250’ high and 30 miles to the south. Mount Hood is Oregon’s tallest mountain, and in all of North America it offers the only year-round lift-served skiing.
Mount Hood was given its present name in 1792 by Lt. William Broughton, a member of Captain George Vancouver’s exploration expedition. Broughton named the mountain after Samuel Hood, 1st Viscount Hood, a British Admiral at the Battle of the Chesapeake.
Director Mel Brooks has twice created spoofs of the Robin Hood story. In 1975, Brooks created and produced a short-lived 1975 television comedy, When Things Were Rotten, which starred Dick Gautier as Robin Hood. In 1993, Brooks directed and produced a theatrical film, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, which starred Cary Elwes as Robin Hood.
Both productions featured Dick Van Patten, who played Friar Tuck in the TV series, and an abbot in the film.
The full name of actor Cary Elwes is Ivan Simon Cary Elwes. Several of his English ancestors had the surname “Cary-Elwes” while others did not hyphenate it, including John Elwes, who was believed to be the inspiration for Ebenezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.