True Crime

I have a disturbing obsession with true crime stories (although Ann Rule, the Queen of true crime insists that we are quite normal :p).

At any given time, I have at least 3 true crime paperbacks going at once. About the time I think I have read them all, some other psycho comes along and WALLA, another book is born.

Anyone else hold this obsession? Who is your favorite author? What is your favorite book? Do you like gruesome stories, stories that concentrate on the victim’s life, those that go into the murder’s brain, or the police proceedures?

True Crime is one of my topics of choice when reading. My favorite author is Ann Rule (She’s from Seattle, too), her best book is “The Stranger Beside Me”. Best true crime book, bar none, is “The Only Living Witness”. Two journalists interviewed Ted Bundy and asked “IF you were guilty of the crimes you’ve been convicted of, how would you have done them?” And the book is Ted’s reply. VERY CREEPY, but very good.

I also like Jack Olson, he’s another Pacific Northwest author.

I love true crime stories. I don’t really have a favorite author, but my favorite book was one that attempted to connect the Son of Sam murders to the Manson Family. Its been years since I read it, but I cannot remember the name of it.

Edmund Pearson! The king of true crime. He wrote in the 1920s about great classic crimes: Lizzie Borden, Little Charley Ross, Dr. Parkman.

I’ve been thinking of doing a book on the tabloid coverage of the Dot King murder (a Broadway cloak model was found slain in her Manhattan apt. in 1923). No one was ever convicted, and there were a LOT of great supporting characters, including her cheap showgirl roomie, her gigolo boyfriend, her Philadelphia sugar daddy . . .

My mother-in-law loves Ann Rule. She’s read every book she’s put out. She loaned me “A Fever in Their Heart” (I think that was the title) last year. I though that it was pretty good. Didn’t love it though, too much hemming and hawing, not enough getting to the point for my taste.

Diane - I swear you and I must somehow be related.

I love true crime as well - my favorite was Ann Rule - A Rose for her Grave - which I lent out to someone and didn’t get back.

I do like all types, too.

I feel like such “sheeple”… :smiley:

It’s a little known fact that many psycho crime sprees are triggered by people who use “Walla” instead of “Voila”.

The book that attempts to connect the Son of Sam to the Manson Family (actually, it attempts to connect both to a large Satanic cult) is called “The Ultimate Evil” by Maury Terry. Very interesting and creepy, but I don’t know if I buy it all.

I also loved “The Only Living Witness”, but I would have to say that Ann Rule’s books are all at the top of my list.

The most interesting book I have read as far as understanding the human mind, would have to be “Perfect Victim” by Christine McGuire and Carla Norton. It is the story of Colleen Stan, the girl who was kidnapped by Cameron Hooker and his wife and kept in a box under their waterbed, a head box, and a tiny closet as his sex slave and torture victim for 7 years. It hard to believe the things she went through, but even more interesting is the way she was brainwashed to the point that she was even allowed to go home and visit her family and then came back to Cameron.

Almost all true crime stories are disturbing to read, but of the 200+ true crime paperbacks that I own, only one kept be awake at night and actually gave me nightmares. It has been a few years since I have read this book and to this day it still bothers me - A LOT! The book is “Whatever Mother Says” by W. Clarkson about a mother who, along with her sons, tortured and killed her teenage daughters. She shot one daughter and let her lay bleeding in the bathtub for days until she had her sons take her to the desert and burn her alive. She then beat another daughter and locked her in a 18"X18" broom closet until she died from starvation and heat. A third daughter finally escaped and went to police.

Eve - Are you familiar with “The Black Delilah”? I haven’t read it in a long time and have forgotten almost all of it, but I do remember it had to do with the murder of an actress back in the 30’s(?). She was called “The Black Delilah” because she always wore black. Was it the same case?

For those who love Ann Rule, you may want to get on her mailing list or check out her website http://www.annrules.com It gives you updated information about the people she writes about. I just finished "And Never Let Her Go " about Thomas Capano and the murder of Anne Marie Fahey. As with most of Ann’s books, I bawled all the way through it.

Oh, and finagle? You may want to lock your doors tonight. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Diane—It’s Black “Dahlia,” and sure! One of the most grisly cases. Without looking anything up, it was in the mid- or late-1940s, and the gal (Beth Short, I think her name was) was a Hollywood hanger-on, not really an actress. No one knows who killed her (and chopped her in half and left her in a deserted lot in L.A.), which of course makes it creepier. There’s been a LOT of books on her, some wackier than others. One author recently decided that Orson Welles did it! I am NOT making that up.

I know there are at least two Web sites devoted to the case, if you want to do a search (and if you can stomach some of the most horrific photos you’ll ever see!). My “google” search engine isn’t working; is it me, or has another dot-com gone down the drain?

Diane, before Eve gets apopleptic, it was “The Black Dahlia.” :smiley:

I like true crime as well. My favorites are the procedurals and the courtroom stuff, although the stuff that gets into the killers’ minds is interesting as well.

Vincent Bugliosi’s two books, “Helter Skelter” and “And The Sea Will Tell” are still excellent entries, once you get past Vincent Bugliosi talking about how smart Vincent Bugliosi is. (Aside: A new book, “Sharon Tate and the Manson Murders,” publishes the same crime-scene photos that appeared in “Helter Skelter” of Tate and Jay Sebring without the bodies whited out. Amazingly tasteless, IMHO.)

I read “The Perfect Victim” too, and it creeped me out all to hell. Another good one is “May God Have Mercy,” by John C. Tucker, about the rape and murder of Virginia housewife Wanda McCoy. That one is compelling, among other reasons, because her brother-in-law, Roger Coleman, was tried, convicted and executed despite the fact that he may very well have been innocent.

Once book I particularly enjoyed was “Torso,” by Steven Nickel. It details the search for Cleveland’s Torso Killer in the 1930s, spearheaded by none other than Cleveland Public Safety Director Eliott Ness (yep, that Eliott Ness). They never caught the killer; and in fact, there was supposition at one point that the Torso Killer and the Black Dahlia killer were the same person.

Jokes No One Got (No. 27 in a series):

I was walking through the Gommint District a few years back and glanced in a shop window. There was a mannequin in the process of being readied for display: she was dressed, but bisected at the waist and laying on the floor.

“Ah, the Beth Short collection,” I murmered to myself as I walked by.

I have more of an obsession with true crime television instead of books, but I’m surprised nobody has mentioned one of my favorites - In Cold Blood by Truman Capote. I’m not sure if the rumor’s true or not, but I’ve heard that Capote fell in love with one of the perpetrators during the interview he conducted. Weird.

Oh man, certain people in my life are a little freaked out by my reading true crime novels and watching movies/TV related to that.

“In Cold Blood” is of course a classic of the genre, but hands-down scariest shit was “Helter Skelter”. I agree with pldennison that you have to get past Bugliosi’s ego to really enjoy it. The “creepy-crawling” the family did…brrr.

My favorite true-crime site, The Complete Newgate Calendar:

http://www.law.utexas.edu/lpop/etext/completenewgate.htm

[Be sure 'n look up Sawney Beane!]

People, people, people. Run, do not walk, run to your nearest book store and buy a copy of “In Cold Blood.” (I’d lend you my copy but its a first edition signed by Capote himself and I have it a safe deposit box).

“Sure, I thought Mr. Hickock was a good man. Right up to the time I shot him in the head with a shotgun.” If that doesn’t keep you up at night you’re too weird for this world.

Oh Jeesuz, I did it again. Ya gotta admit though, I was sorta close. :smiley: I am going to have to dig out my old book and read it again. I do remember that it was pretty gory, but really interesting.

I’m not real familiar with Orson Welles, but for some reason I have the impression that his name has come up in other scandals. I probably just imagined it, however, he does seem a bit shady.

I have never heard about the Dot King murder but it sounds like the makings of a great book! I think you should go for it, Eve!

Phil - As someone who has read “Perfect Victim”, did you have a hard time accepting Colleen’s feelings toward Cameron (her love letters) and the fact that she could have escaped but didn’t during the last few years of her captivity? I had to keep reminding myself of the torture and brainwashing she went through and how there is no way to know how I would have reacted in the same terrifying situation.

Also, knowing that he tortured his wife the same way, especially before they kidnapped Colleen, do you feel that she was just as much of a victim? I think she went through a living hell, but I still have a hard time agreeing with her lack of prosecution in her part of Colleen’s kidnapping and torture.

On the forensic science end of things, seek out “Forty Years of Murder” by Keith Simpson, a British pathologist. Jam-packed with those gruesome yet oh-so-British murders like “The Luton Sack Murder,” “‘Acid Bath’ Haigh and the Undissolved Gallstone” and of course matching the whip pattern from the skin of the dead victim to the sadistic killer’s riding-crop (“Neville Heath and the Diamond Weave Whip”).

Also the biography of Sir Bernard Spilsbury (Simpson was at one time his student), dean of British forensic pathology.

Finally, to add some Gallic flavour, try Thomas Maeder’s “The Unspeakable Crimes of Dr. Petiot” (Penguin books), a weird but true story of a mass murder operating in Nazi-occupied Paris. Peitot killed (at least) 63 people and burned their remains in his Paris house. The detective who cracked the case was the model for Maigret, by the way.

Oh yes–also Gordon Burn’s deeply disturbing "Happy Like Murderers", the story of the Wests of Gloucester, England: incest, mass murder and home improvements.

There is a book called “Victim” by Gary Kinder, that is written about the Hi-Fi Murders in Ogden, Utah. It is one of my favorites because I happen to know the “victim”. It is also very good. I recommend it to anyone interested in true crime.

Back in the 70’s, two men went into a stereo shop soon before closing. They tied up the young girl and guy (Stan) who were working at the time and took them to the basement. Soon after, one of their friends, a kid named Courtney stopped in to see them. He had just taken his first solo airplane flight and wanted to tell his friends about it. The robbers tied him up and also took him to the basement.

Instead of robbing the place and leaving, the men stayed and tortured the teenagers. Courtney’s mother and Stan’s father started to worry when the kids didn’t come home or answer the phone at the shop. Courtney’s mother knew that he was stopping at the Hi-Fi Shop to see his friends after he picked up photos at the camera shop next door. Incidentally, the clerk who helped him at the camera shop is my cousin (she is even mentioned in the book). Both her and my aunt were working that night and both talked to Courtney before he went next door. He was their neighbor.

Both parents arrived at the shop and were also taken to the basement with the others. During the next few hours, the females were raped, all were forced to drink liquid Drano before their mouths were taped shut, then they were shot. Stan’s father had a ballpoint pen kicked into his ear.

When my aunt and cousin left work, they noticed a white van backed up to the back door of the stereo shop. They assumed that it was a delivery. Later that night while my aunt was listening to her police scanner, she heard a report of a multiple murder at the camera shop where she worked (which was in error as the murder was really next door at the Hi-Fi Shop). After the killers left the shop, Stan’s father had wandered to a pay phone, pen still buried in his head, and called for help.

There were only two survivors, Stanley’s father (Mr. Walker) and Courtney. The book “Victim” is written about their ordeal and how they have coped since the murders. It describes Courtney’s life as a straight A, athletic high school kid, excited to be learning to fly, to a disabled person trying to survive (he never got his pilots license) The attack left him mentally and physically disabled (the Drano had eaten away most of his insides). His family remains friends with my aunt and cousins and his father and uncle have both treated members of my family (they are doctors).

Stan’s father worked with my cousin as a civilian at the Air Force base here in Utah for a number of years. He has recovered well, but what the book doesn’t tell is the affect Stan’s death had on his family. Only those close to Mr. Walker are aware of the things that happened afterward. Stan’s mother was okay for a week or two after the murder of her son, but one day she just stopped functioning. She could no longer bath or feed herself and was even unable to use the bathroom. Mr. Walker had to take care of all her needs. While he was at work, she would sit in front of the window and cry for Stan to come home while the home nurse took care of her. Mr. Walker finally had to take an early retirement to take care of her full time.

Both killers were eventually executed.

Yes, that’s true. It was covered in a biography of Capote I read. Turns out Truman actually bought headstones for the boys after they were hanged.