It’s Fort Macomb in real life - completed in 1822. It lies west of Lake Pontchartrain
For what it’s worth, Slate has compiled some FAQs about the final episode. Pretty well done, IMO.
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end of E7. The only conclusion I can come to is either the writer, the director - or both - sure like a shapely arse.
If the avage guy doesn’t recognise himself in Marty - and the way he’s played by the women in his life - well, you got off lightly: I had to laugh at that youngster being on auto pilot when she played him, and he still had no chance at all …
I would really hope that the average guy does not recognize himself in Marty - a violent, misogynistic cheater.
I agree with you in general but … the “restraint” was more about S2, when they surely have to take on the Senator … and extended family.
So much to say, kind of pointless getting started uness you have the time and mind for 5000 words.
I guess I could say what stuck in my mind the day after was the iconography surrounding Rust, and even more than that the roundedness of the Marty character - I really liked his flawed masculinity, in all its manifestations, battling his essential goodness.
Woody Harrelson did a truly wonderful job of bring a version of the modern married man to life, imo: and giving him two daughters was just one of hundreds of perfect brush stokes that gave this drama such resonance.
This is an anthology show. So far as I know, next season will have new actors, new characters, and a completely new script. I’m assuming there will be little or no crossover from Season 1 to Season 2. I am not even sure it will be set in Louisiana.
Oh okay. That nice, to leave it as Marty describes.
I’d imagine HBO would be happy with that. You do identify the issue; we* have *seen it a million times before, it’s called the western dramatic/story structure.
Whether it’s Shakespeare, Tom and Jerry, David Simon or Steven Spielberg, there’s no choice in the basic shape of the work - Act 1, 2, 3, plus the optional denouement. Within that, Act 1 will be the set up, the first half of Act 2 will contain rising tensions, the midpoint will redefine the quest, etc, etc. There is a template. Hell, we even see it at firework displays or in Ted speeches.
On top of that it’s a cop duo so the rules there as as per Holmes and Watson, Batman and Robin, Cagney and Lacy, ad infinitum; they are generally opposites complementing each other, or at least one has some kind of new stichick (e.g. the Scandie detective with Aspergers)
Finally, what some people call ‘cliches’ are more properly tropes - after battling each other the duo finally form up as a team against their greatest challenge, etc, etc. Large and small, there will be dozens of those in an eight-hour drama.
Thats what the writer begins with, somewhere within that framework they try to create something fresh; for Shakespeare it was sometimes the play-with-the-play idea, for True Detective it was turning the piece inwards at midpoint.
You stray from that one jot and the audience disengages instantly.
Sorry if folks knew most of that already …
My thoughts exactly. Not to mention a (barely) functional alcoholic. The idea of him being “played” by the women in his life is sexist twaddle.
Yeah, I found that sentiment a little disturbing. Unless he’s using some esoteric meaning of “played by” that actually means, “is an entitled, selfish, thoughtless asshole to.”
Marty talked about the different kinds of detectives in the first episode. What you’re saying here makes me wonder if Pizzolatto was acknowledging the trope.
I can’t quite recall that but I do remember my ears picked up twice at what seemed to be very clear homage-type references to The Wire. Pizzolatto wrote with great confidence so it wouldn’t surprise me if he did what you suggest.
Apropos of nothing in particular, I guess the big boat they went fishing on belonged to the bar owner/sniper - has that been covered here?
I figured it was just stolen, boats are pretty easy to steal.
FWIW, I read an interview with Michelle Monaghan that says she and the family will be back for next season. Perhaps her new husband will be a key player.
The two interview guys might be back. In particular the one Rust noted as having a more sincere interest in getting to the bottom of things.
But I’m probably not going to watch.
The finale was a let down. Way too much long gibberish monologuing. Implausible that either survived their wounds. Etc.
Plus it’s LeDoux all over again. A low level character has been killed. So what? Nothing major has been accomplished. Life (and death) goes on unchanged for the real goons.
I’m rewatching E1 and this comes up in the first 7-8 minutes. If I had to choose why, I’d say it’s there to illustrate Marty’s philosophy.
Anyway, part of that scene is one of homage moment I picked up on:
Interviewer to Marty: What kind (of detective) were you?
Marty: I was just a regular dude, with a big-ass dick.
Contrast with Bunk’s “just a humble motherfucker with a big-ass dick”
This is killing me any help gratefully received.
You may recall the scene between Marty and Maggie in E2 when he’s been drinking and she’s cooking spaghetti. He’s trying to get Maggie to tell him to leave (he wants to be pushed out so he can be with the court stenographer) and Maggie knows the game and isn’t playing (Marty: “even your mother thinks you’re a ballbuster”, etc).
I’m troubled by another of the oblique scenes between the two, this time from around half way through E7. He goes to see Maggie at her home - remarried and living in the big house. They talk about the kids why the police are interested in revisiting the case, what the police asked Maggie, etc. Then, at the end:
“I haven’t seen you in over two years, Marty. Did you come here to say goodbye?”
“Thank you, Maggie. I mean that”
What the hell are they talking about this time?
I think we only see her twice more after this (a) when she goes to the bar to ask Rust if Marty could get hurt, and (b) in the hospital denouement, which is another interesting scene between the two …
Cheers.
He kind of is saying goodbye. He realizes he might die soon and he wants to make some degree amends before he goes. She picks up on it and realizes his life might be in danger.
Acsenray - thanks very much. That makes perfect sense.
another thing then … I understand the body in 2012 (the one tied to a bridge we saw photos of) was left to be found because the idea was to incriminate Rust.
However, rather than be disappeared like all the others, why was Dora Lange left under the tree in 1995?