Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him

Nail on the head stuff, there. More destructive, in my opinion.

This cancer has been eating at our country for nearly 30 years. It’s gone so far, I have no idea what can be done about it now. Between the successful attacks on education, the entrenched nature of “alternative facts,” people like Limbaugh, Levin, Jones, Bannon and yes, Trump, spreading their vile lies and hate throughout a certain eager population that loves to hear it because it validates their own inner racist, carving this disease out of our citizenry seems an impossible goal at this point.

I had a laugh-out-loud moment today reading a CNN story:

FBI Director James Comey was ‘incredulous’ over Trump’s tweets

Not sure about Comey, but calling Trump honorable is akin to doing the same about the rat guarding the cheese.

Or, even more appropriately, the scorpion who stings the frog carrying it across the river:

“Why’d you do that? You’re killing yourself too.”
“I can’t help it. It’s in my nature.”

“Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him”

Trump’s been in office over a month.

Yet only now Trump lodges this accusation:

  • reportedly without offering supporting evidence
  • against the contradictions of such authorities as Clapper
  • despite his November victory

It would seem at least to be an unusual delayed reaction.

Is this Trump’s standard for waging War? Shoot on suspicion? Proof optional?

We lost over 4,000 in that one.
How many of U.S. will Trump waste, in the next 4 years?

^ This.

Au contraire. It’s perfectly times to try to distract you from the ongoing Russia debacle. This isn’t a response to anything that actually happened. It’s a response to the Jeff Sessions story. The lack of a logical connection is irrelevant. It accomplishes the tasks of:

  1. Getting the media onto another story, and
  2. Putting another false narrative into the mind of Trumpists.

Not an anonymous source.

“I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored,” Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday.

“The evidence of the conversation of the president of the U.S., President Trump, and the [prime minister] of Australia and the president of Mexico. Releasing those conversations. Those are conversations that are picked up by the FAIRVIEW program, primarily, by NSA.”

Some guy who left the NSA in '01 presents no evidence for Trump’s claim about Obama. How is this relevant to the discussion?

Trump has a history of making evidence-free claims about Obama. So far this is just another one. Maybe at some point he’ll offer evidence, but that would be something new for Trump.

Amazing how someone who lost his clearance 16 years ago knows more about super-secret Watergate-style wiretaps than the FBI Director!!

Trump knows more than the generals about Iraq. Same principle.

Not an anonymous source, but an irrelevant one.

Didn’t Trump talk to Mexico and Australia when he was already president? Is this irrelevant, hasn’t-been-in-the-NSA-in-16-years source claiming that the NSA is tapping Trump’s phone now, while he’s president? In the Oval Office? On Air Force One? :dubious:

Nothing on point, but found this relwavtm document re the assertion FISA judges rubberstamp warrant applications. See here.https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/805311/ranking-member-grassley-letter-131011.pdf

Basically states about a quarter of applications require changes before they are finally approved. It’s not a submit, then 99% are accepted process. there’s a lot of back n forth once a warrant is initially submitted and 25% need to be redone before final submittal. The 99% is true but applies to final applications.

So on March 20 when the House Intelligence Committee concludes that there was no wire tapping of Trump’s phones, what is he going to do? He won’t accept that. There is no way he will admit he was wrong.

It seems to me that he is setting his fans up for there to be a huge conspiracy against him if it’s found that there was collusion with Russia from his campaign. Just like when he thought he was going to lose the election and got them all to believe it was rigged. After the Wikileaks story today about the CIA, I’ve already heard folks saying that the CIA and the Democrats set up the Russians! (Why on earth the Democrats would want to fuck up the election doesn’t seem to occur to them.) We know his fans will not believe anything unless it comes from Trump. Or Fox News. Some of their folks are gleefully pushing the idea that Obama was an evil mastermind out to take down Trump.

So what will he do? Go full-on conspiracy theory? How will the Republicans handle that?

He could do like he did with the birth certificate timeline and just lie about how it all happened.

Generally keep their mouths shut and thank their lucky stars that they have such gullible followers that they can sell any story to.

You’ve hit on it, I think. Trump will announce that it was HILLARY who said that Trump’s phones were tapped.

Lock her up!

Seriously, as things go to hell, Trump is going to be desperate for some way, any way, to please his base.

That might be what he hits on. He couldn’t do it lawfully, of course, but who knows what Sessions might be willing to gin up in support of the project?

In a 1987 column, Dave Barry had a variation of that joke:

Surely the Republicans won’t continue to indulge his paranoid fantasies. I mean, I understand that some of them have waited 8 years to come up with something, anything to take down Obama (and, of course, Hillary) but just how far would the entire GOP let these things go? I know they are power hungry little shits but I can’t believe that deep down there isn’t some concern for the country. Is the fear of Trump tweeting bad things about you that paralyzing? I know McCain and Graham talk the talk but they are pretty ineffectual. Are there no GOP elder statesmen (Romney’s gagged) who are in no danger from Trump and care about what he’s doing?

I know I’m just spitting in the wind here. But I never thought I’d see the day when the idea that the President is a delusional pathological liar is common knowledge and it seems that no one can/will shut him down.

I believe this explains it: