And they’re the ones who bitch about agendas being shoved down their throats. I feel like I’m going to puke whenever I pass a private business flying the stars and stripes at half-mast. I tell myself they don’t realize that while der Trumpenführer has control over federal banners he has no control over theirs but I am not sure – car dealerships are not known to be liberal bastions.
I would hope that if I had in attendance of a Diamonbacks game that pulled such a stunt I would have the wit and courage to drop trou, turn around, and bend over. At least now it’s in the back of my mind.
Haven’t read further in the thread to see if anyone answered this, but I noticed the suspect walked/ran/hobbled away with a curiously stiff-legged gait on one side, which makes me think he stashed the rifle down his pant leg to hide it.
I would need a lot more provocation before I’d shoot someone than ‘I do not like this person’. If I, or other people, are in imminent danger, then I would take action if I had to. OTOH, even though I do have a concealed carry license, I never carry a firearm. I’m not that paranoid. Anyway, I certainly would not shoot a political enemy. (But also, I’m not going to cry about a political enemy being croaked.)
I’m tempted to say, ‘Up your hole with a Mello Roll!’ but I am indeed older than I am.
Speaking of firing squads, and therefore rifles and the murder weapon, I heard today that Robinson used a Mauser Model 98. To me, a ‘Mauser 98’ means a Gewehr 98 (I have two; one made by Mauser in 1917, and one Yugoslavian one). I did a quick search, and the Mauser website say their current Model 98 starts at just under $14,500. I’m assuming that the murder weapon was not as pretty as the one I found in my Google search.
What a peculiar quote. How would that prayer be answered? Would God go back in time to change the shooter to being a crippled black blue haired lesbian trans woman? I would normally say that he’s just using “pray” in place of “hope”, not actually petitioning God to make something happen, but he specifically says the prayer wasn’t answered, so what was he expecting? That’s ignoring the sort of shittiness built in there, just thought it was strange from a prayer-mechanics perspective.
So this one is kind of easy: Yes, you can get angry at home without being a hypocrite, because the reason you were hoping it was a white Christian was so that there would be less chance of retaliatory violence, because if it’s a leftist/trans/gay/whatever, people are going to use it as an excuse to commit violence against that group. On the other hand, most of the people hoping it was some sort of leftist or minority was exactly so they could justify retaliatory violence, hatred, and score rhetorical points. Your hopes were mirrored, but the reasoning was very different.
So I get what you’re getting at, and it’s not without merit. I wouldn’t want people routinely posting what chatgpt uses as a citation. However, look at the context – the points I was refusing were incredibly stupid and didn’t justify that much looking into. In your hypothetical example, I realize you’re exaggerating, and you wouldn’t look to confirm the Earth was round, and that’s what I felt like I was doing.
The Wall Street Journal is a respected main stream news source within the realm of sane news. It’s not perfect and it probably has false balance like other “mainstream” news sources. But when people on here told me that it was so much of a right wing propaganda outlet that of course every single one of their journalists would be a gun-worshipping fetishist and expert, and that of course they’d just make incredible irresponsible leaps like thinking a “TRN” manufacturing stamp is “trans ideology”, I thought to myself – am I wrong about which newspaper I’m thinking of? Am I mixing this up with some other paper, the way that maybe someone would mix up the generally respectable New York Times with the pile of shit New York Post? So I just asked chatgpt for a quick sanity check – what’s the bias and reality of the Wall Street Journal? And it confirmed what I remembered – generally factual and reliable in its reporting, modestly right wing. This is sort of like ChatGPT telling me “yes, the Earth is round” and so I didn’t follow it to its sources because I was really only checking that I wasn’t making a very basic mistake. It was the people I was responding to that were being ridiculous.
So yes, best practice would’ve been to go to those original sources, but I was refuting something so stupid that it didn’t seem worth the effort.
I think a fair characterization of the WSJ is that it espouses right-wing ideology, as frequently seen in its editorial pages – sometimes to an extreme degree – but is carefully responsible in its news pages and strives for accurate information because, as someone said upthread (maybe it was you) accurate news is important for its business readers.
I can’t help but think of ‘It’s a gusher! It’s a gusher! Auntie Em! Auntie Em!’ I’ve always thought it was a quote from Airplane!, but I can’t confirm it.
Charlie Kirk: Good fucking riddance to you, you worthless right-wing piece of shit. I am glad you were shot, and I am glad you are dead. I am no more sorry for what happened to you than I would be for Hitler or Mengele. Too bad there really is no Hell for you to suffer all eternity in. I can only hope you endured unspeakable suffering during your final hours and minutes. Fuck you.
What??? I’m not accusing you of lying, but this blows my mind. I’m surrounded by a hundred leftists in my life, and not one is happy he was shot, let alone “elated.”
I’m genuinely curious about how to explain this yawning gulf of a disparate experience.
ETA: okay, Siam Sam aligns with your observation…. Wow. Am I in some kind of bubble of human kindness (or even just practical thinking, that this is bad for the left’s causes)? I mean, I wanted him to stop converting young people into MAGA voters…but elated that he was shot? Wow.
Given that the “trans ideology” report was news and not editorial, I was correct to be skeptical that they would be irresponsible enough to make the jump to the “TRN = trans ideology” conclusion. They were reporting what the police were reporting, and it wasn’t “TRN” – it seems like someone on the internet made up – but rather the stupid internet meme that the police jumped to conclusions on. It’s still irresponsible for them, I think, to repeat the “trans ideology” report without substantiating it themselves given how delicate the situation was, but it’s hard to fault them too much for just repeating what the police were putting out there.
I gotta say, it’s funny that you post this and the post above you was posted while you were typing that up.
I agree, though, that the level of celebration on the left is surprisingly low. If a leftist activist were assassinated like this, MAGA would openly be celebrating – and not just random internet people but major spokespeople and party members.
