Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event [now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025]

Fair observation.

Do you actually legitimately think you have me cornered when this is the stupidest fucking argument ever?

Is it your opinion that saying empathy is a made-up new age term incompatible with being Christian? Did JC talk a lot about empathy a lot? I do not remember that. What is an appropriate level of empathy for a Christian in you estimation? Does everyone need to pass the Crane Christianity empathy litmus test or just Charlie Kirk?

Thank you for the Gish Gallup, but would you mind just answering the question?

Does one of your 5 questions represent your position?

My premise is that empathy is basic to the teachings of Jesus Christ therefore it is a necessary part of being a Christian.

What is yours?

Umm yeah, he kinda did. It was a big part of his preaching. But more to the point, he didn’t just talk about it; he instead reportedly displayed empathy as well—and his followers thought this was important enough to share.

I’m constantly reminded in recent years about Gandhi’s quote about Christians:

Out of curiosity, what do you think Jesus’s central message was if not love and concern and empathy for fellow humans?

Sometimes I think so-called Christians focus solely on being personally “saved” and the rest of the world can go to hell.

I am an atheist, but I like to imagine that if there was a Heaven people would arrive and be asked by their god, “How many did you drive away from me?”. That would be the Heaven far too many “Christians” deserve.

Um… lessee… Healing the sick, “love one another”, making the fishes and wine aplenty, crying with those over the loss of Lazarus, etc… What Does the Bible Say About Empathy?

This is why I picked the full speech about wives and marriage. You focus in on the money quote calling it a joke, but the rest about rejecting feminism, quitting a career (now she’s worth 100x what Travis is worth) and focusing on children… How can you dismiss the four paragraphs on the subject before he tells “a joke” at the end? That joke means he’s kidding about all of it?

I must withdraw for an hour or so but I shall return

Don’t forget the absurd reference to “wokey.” It’s hard to take anyone seriously that believes there is a “woke” problem in the U.S.

Obviously Charlie Kirk doesn’t have to justify his religious beliefs to fit your bullshit notion of what constitutes a real Christian that no one really cares about.

He couldn’t do so anyway because he’s dead. So sad.

Wrong answer. You are not Charlie Kirk, and the question was directed at you, not him.

Care to give it one more try?

Perhaps I am mistaken. Based on your posts upthread, I thought you were willing to enter into debate.

If you want to discuss Charlie Kirk quotes I’m game. If you want to discuss your opinion of his religious beliefs and some two bit of theology you just pulled out of your ass I’ll pass. It is super fucking boring, kind of dumb and I would rather watch paint dry.

It appears that Pedro’s style of debate is ‘I’m right, you’re wrong, next subject’.

Empathy is a valid human emotion that is often used to guilt trip people into responding to things in less than constructive ways. It can be used as a club because it is a powerful emotion. Properly applied empathy will lead to dialogue that produces best outcomes both short and long term. It should not be used for political purposes.

I was wrong. You’re actually terrible at this.

Now, now, be fair, Pedro is better at this than HoneyBadgerDC is!

His posts indicate that he doesn’t know how to spell debate.

Neither did Charlie Kirk.