Good! If it’s just quotes, how do you like this one?
“If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’”
Another joke?
While you might use your cognitive empathy to read someone like a book, understanding their thinking, feeling, and intending, if you can’t feel their pain, do not relate or respond on a brain level to their thoughts, emotions, and intentions, it might lead you to maltreat them.
Yep, like Trump on the maltreating of others with the willful mishandling of the economy, immigration, vaccination, even pain killers.
And Charlie Kirk was not a stranger to those things, like he showed when agreeing to moves that dismiss empathy, like anti masking and vaccination doubt.
Charlie Represented himself and his organization as working toward a Christian Nation. OK, so let’s debate whether, having taken on the task, Charlie was able to represent Christian goals. I am basing my premise on a Charlie quote, which you have acknowledged:
Empathy is a necessary part of being a Christian. CK rejected empathy therefore he rejected Christ.
You treat the premise so dismissively that you must be able to refute it.
Kirk’s idea of a Christian Nation isn’t out of line with modern Christianity. He doesn’t seem to care about closely following Jesus’ words or actions, but neither do many other Christians these days. Christianity means whatever they want it to mean. The positive or negative aspect of Kirk can be evaluated independently of religion. It doesn’t really matter if his version of Christianity is proper or not. Christianity can’t even agree what the proper version of Christianity is. There are thousands of denominations of Christianity with wildly different tenants. Kirk wasn’t coming up with a wildly different version of Christianity. He’s pretty much in line with any evangelical church these days.
A statement disproven by many of your posts here.
A statement disproven by many of your posts here.
Yes we often endeavor to get obvious trolls banned. Shocking, I know.
Ah, the go-to “you’re all just attacking me because I’m a conservative challenging the hivemind narrative” lie, long beloved of all our right-wing trolls here. Why are the right so terrified of accountability?
No, you’re lying, deflecting, projecting, and claiming victimhood for being held accountable for your words are not strange or unusual to any of us. It is exactly what we’ve come to expect from right-wing trolls.
“I believe he didn’t mean that thing he literally said” is a fun argument, as was the strawman you chose to build because you couldn’t knock down the actual argument.
Oh look - more of that deflection you claim you don’t do.
Repeating the assertion “it was just a joke” doesn’t make it true.
So you don’t know many Christian conservatives, then.
Is that what happened to you and the right? I mean, you’ve been happily demonizing anyone who doesn’t think like you throughout this thread, and we all know what the right has been doing for daring to suggest Kirk wasn’t a saint.
You can deflect from them as per usual. Oh wait - you already did.
There’s that projection again..
There’s that projection again.
Yes. Try Mark 12:31 or Matthew 22:39 for starters (based on Leviticus 19:18). Also Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:26-36, and arguably Matthew 25:40.
Obviously you can’t justify Charlie Kirk’s religious beliefs because they fit your bullshit notion of what constitutes a real Christian that is the antithesis of what Jesus taught. And you cared enough about it to tell us how sour those grapes are more than once.
Jesus also had a lot to say about liars and hypocrites. And how they were bad.
Worth a read:
Full title: Charlie Kirk was a divisive far-right podcaster. Why is he being rebranded as a national hero?
The streets of Washington DC are unmistakable. In addition to noting the city’s signature architecture and public monuments, one will know they are in the nation’s capital when they can barely go half a city block without spotting a US flag. Two weeks ago, those flags were flying at half-staff, but not in recognition of the passing of a high-ranking public official, as would be customary. Instead, the half-staff was ordered by the White House in a highly politicized effort to memorialize the 10 September killing of Charlie Kirk, a 31-year-old podcaster, hard-right party operative, and Maga youth influencer, as an event of national tragedy.
Kirk ruled over an online fiefdom peddling his signature brand of rage-baiting racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic and misogynistic commentary. It wasn’t just his vitriolic style, but also his popularization of cruelty, humiliation and dehumanization of political opponents – especially college students – that attracted millions to his audience. He famously said empathy was “a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage”.
I would, if I was in the USA, have declined to fly the flag at all, rather than at half mast.
Also, his face was way too small for his head.
Nope, he is totally serious on this point. It was one of his main talking points that a woman’s purpose is to be a wife and mother full stop.
That women should be treated as property is indeed absurd, but that Kirk believes it is not. Its quite common among conservatives and growing in popularity. Look up the tradwife movement.
No it is not a joke. I’m glad you brought this up. Full context ( Fact Check: Real Charlie Kirk quote about Black pilot qualifications circulates online ):
KOLVET: We’ve all been in the back of a plane when the turbulence hits or when you’re flying through a storm and you’re like, “I’m so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we took off. And I feel better now, thinking about that.”
KIRK: You wanna go thought crime? I’m sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, “Boy, I hope he’s qualified.”
KOLVET: But you wouldn’t have done that before!
KIRK: That’s not an immediate … that’s not who I am. That’s not what I believe.
NEFF: It is the reality the left has created.
KIRK: I want to be as blunt as possible because now I’m connecting two dots. Wait a second, this CEO just said that he’s forcing that a white qualified guy is not gonna get the job. So I see this guy, he might be a nice person and I say, “Boy, I hope he’s not a Harvard-style affirmative-action student that … landed half of his flight-simulator trials.”
KOLVET: Such a good point. That’s so fair.
KIRK: It also … creates unhealthy thinking patterns. I don’t wanna think that way. And no one should, right? … And by the way, then you couple it with the FAA, air-traffic control, they got a bunch of morons and affirmative-action people.
Pretty self-explanatory. He later issued this clarification after the left wing media predictably took what he said out of context and attacked him for it:
The essence of that clip that was missed by almost everybody — Jordan Peterson, to his credit, really picked up on it — which was I was trying to be, you know, very vulnerable with the audience is that DEI invites unwholesome thinking. … I was saying in the clip, “That’s not who I am, that’s not what I believe.” But what it does is it makes us worse versions of ourselves, Megyn. That’s the whole point of what I was saying is that I now look at everything through a hyper-racialized diversity-quota lens because of their massive insistence to try to hit these ridiculous racial hiring quotas. Of course I believe anybody of any skin color can become a qualified pilot.
I agree with the larger point he was making about racial hiring quotas and DEI. What else do you want to know?
Thank you for providing such a clear example where Kirk is unfairly maligned by liberals and his words intentionally taken out of context and distorted to attack and discredit him.
I’m reading the whole quote and I’m seeing a racist who is blaming anti-racists for his racism.
Why am I not surprised by that?
Because you’re a racist.
I have to agree. In that context, what I get is, “I’m not that way, but, now, because of DEI, when I see a black person in an important role, I now have to assume that they aren’t as competent as a white person would be, because I have to assume that they got that job because of their skin color, not their talent or experience.”
In other words: “Really, that’s not me, but I’m having to think in a racist way now.” Which is serious weasel-words about racism.
Awww. Here’s a cookie for you.
Anyone who lives in the real world knows how DEI actually works. Not the cartoon version of the racist who starts with the assumption that white Christian males are actually the naturally Superior Master Class.
Ubermensch class. Get it right.
Yep, this is a similar mentality as the guy that released the whole recording of his group killing a black guy because he sincerely thought that the whole context would exonerate them… racism does gives blinders to the ones falling for it.
Ya know, LARPing as a Nazi isn’t helping the argument that you’re not a troll, just saying.