Trump and Congressional Democrats tentatively agree to $2 trillion infrastructure bill

Tentative agreement - but it is very light on details as to just what the bill would be for and how it would be paid for - and Congressional Republicans would have to support it, too.

It will be interesting to see how the Mock Turtle is going to respond to this. Mitch wouldn’t give the Democratic Party a glass of water at noon on the summer solstice, but with Orange Julius Caesar supposedly on board with this bill, how is he going to block it without looking (more) like an idiot?

From the article: “The leaders say they’re waiting for Trump to outline his ideas for that in three weeks”

Hahahahahahaha! This will never happen.

Once Fox n Friends is through with this, Trump’s “ideas” will morph from “2 trillion infrastructure bill” to a “lock up immigrants in camps and blame the Democrats bill”

Yeppers.

Charlie Brown. Lucy. Football.

My first thought upon reading the headline was “$2T? That’s a LOT of wall!” On a more serious note though, I hope it doesn’t include more failed high-speed-train-to-nowhere projects.

Man, I don’t know about you all, or if it’s just me, but this week has seemed to last forever.

I think it will happen; it’s just that it will morph into a battle over how much $$ goes where. The Ds and Rs will want as much of the money shifted towards blue and red states, respectively.

The devil is obviously going to be in the details.

When infrastructure came up previously it was clear that both sides had very different ideas of what that meant. With Democrats thinking it meant the government directly hiring contractors to build things where they are needed, while the Republicans seemed to favor giving tax breaks to corporations to would build things that they viewed as profitable, with the understanding that anything that doesn’t result in a direct profit for corporations isn’t worth while.

It will never happen. We’ve seen Pelosi and Schumer visit the White House squatter and come away thinking there was a deal, only to find out Donald’s handlers make him renege on it. Dipstick will probably throw in a demand for a wall or else no money for roads and bridges.

I think Trump will support an Infrastructure bill. He campaigned on fixing Infrastructure.

This is the sort of big project that will appeal to Trump’s desire for a lasting legacy. He’ll have many opportunities to remind everyone what a great job he did. I don’t mind stroking his ego, if it means getting our bridges and dams fixed.

It’ll employ a lot of people in manufacturing and construction.

I hope stupid political infighting doesn’t ruin this opportunity. It’s encouraging that the Democratic leadership initiated this proposal.

How many barbed-wire surrounded camps can you make for $2 Trillion, anyway?

I recall Trump campaigning on, in this order, Wall, Wall, Wall, Wall, Wall, repeal and replace Obamacare, Mexicans are rapist gang members, keeping Muslims out.

This post seems to assume that Trump is a rational and coherent politician. I don’t know why you’d make that assumption, but I see absolutely no reason to believe that Trump saying X about a tentative agreement with the Democrats has anything to do with the likelihood of Trump actually doing X in terms of an agreement with the Democrats.

In short, he’s an irrational, incompetent, dishonorable, and incoherent toddler, and there’s no reason that any of us should believe that he as any ability or likelihood to make and execute a reasonable agreement with the other party.

Maybe this agreement will buck the trend and actually go somewhere, but it’s a crapshoot and there’s no way to predict the behavior of entirely irrational, incoherent, and dishonorable actors like Trump.

Trump might want infrastructure, but that’s irrelevant to what his handlers want.

You misspelled “Fox News” there.

They were talking with the Tuesday Trump today. Don’t be surprised if the Thursday or Friday Trump changes course 180 degrees or so.

Smapti, not all of his handlers are on Fox News. Don’t forget about Putin.

All joking aside though, what does the nation really need infrastructure-wise?

  1. Big push for clean and renewable energy would be in everyone’s interest
  2. At some point, Republicans will probably try to tuck border-wall funding into it, so there’s that
  3. I hear many air-traffic control computers and IT systems are multi-decades-old and obsolete
  4. Crumbling bridges, etc.
  5. Power grid is vulnerable to EMP attack

Small earthen dams are a major concern.

Many were built decades ago and had no maintenance. Sometimes they don’t even know who built it or have any blueprints.

Some houses in my hometown neighborhood flooded after a earthen dam failed. Most people didn’t know it was there.

People have no idea if their land is protected by something built maybe 80 years ago. It might have been a private project, county, or city.

Just finding them all and inspecting is a challenge.