Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

Bloomberg: Kushner is in debt by hundreds of millions, has been scouring the globe trying to save his real estate firm. Has an 18mth deadline before mortgage due on an office building in NYC and he just can’t find any investors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-kushners-china-deal-flop-was-part-of-much-bigger-hunt-for-cash/

I’m sure when he brings peace to the Middle East, all debts will be forgiven out of gratitude for world service.

Very interesting article. That potentially puts those two Russia meetings in a very different light. That could be a bigger deal than some of the other stuff (e.g. the other Russia meeting).

That said, it might be hard to pin it on Kushner. Even if he was hoping to translate his influence into some much-needed Russian investment cash, it’s not likely that anyone would have been very direct about it.

For those who haven’t yet seen or found it, this timeline is very helpful and interesting in understanding all the players and how they fit together in the Trump/Russia involvements. It grows weekly. Hard to keep up. Trump Russian Timeline

The outline of the narrative is becoming clearer: $1.2 billion (or more) in debt relief in exchange for the ending of sanctions. Might even explain the whole running for President thing.

Again, this seems relevant:

*"Paul Manafort’s notes from a controversial Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign included the word “donations,” near a reference to the Republican National Committee, two sources briefed on the evidence told NBC News.

The references, which have not been previously disclosed, elevated the significance of the June 2016 meeting for congressional investigators, who are focused on determining whether it included any discussion of donations from Russian sources to either the Trump campaign or the Republican Party.
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"It is illegal for foreigners to donate to American elections. The meeting happened just as Trump had secured the Republican nomination for president, and he was considered a longshot to win. Manafort was the campaign chairman at the time. "*

Wondering if this is related to this story (RNC chief of staff resigns amid rash of departures):

Sara Armstrong, the top staffer at the Republican National Committee, is departing, according to three people familiar with the move — the latest in a string of high-level departures at the committee.

Armstrong, the RNC’s chief of staff, is exiting to take a senior job at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. She had been serving in the chief of staff role since early this year after helping to oversee President Donald Trump’s inauguration planning.

Armstrong is the sixth staffer to leave the RNC in just over the month. A handful of aides in the committees data department have left recently amid a change in departmental leadership."*

I imagine that those RNC staffers who have a small modicum of history knowledge are well aware of the many, many people who went down during Nixon’s Watergate scandal, while he himself was pardoned and skated free as a bird…

Somebody should have paid more attention when watching the Wire:

My guess is (as elucidator speculated earlier) that it’s the opposite. Based on what’s been known to this point, the Trump people showed up at the meeting expecting to see evidence of illegal funding of the Clinton campaign. They claim there were vague allegations but was no hard evidence presented and the conversation segued to the adoption issue and they bailed. It would be completely consistent with this if the mention of donations was about the lawyer’s allegations of donations to the Democrats.

I love it! Especially later in the Summer!

Cute. :slight_smile:

He should just ask for a loan from dear old dad-in-law. Hundreds of millions is just pocket change to Trump, right?

This deserves another shout out.

Not to disagree with your (apparent) point, but it’s worth understanding that Jared Kushner doesn’t own that company. It’s a Kushner family business. Presumably his father is the primary owner.

This gives me more hope than any other piece of news so far: it says that those with power and money think the Trump family is a very bad bet. Even if it’s technically the Kushner family that’s in trouble, this says that those with power and money believe that Trump won’t become the Putin of America–able to loot the nation at will.

Either that, or they think Trump will become the Putin of America, and not pay them back.

I want to quote a friend of mine:

Wall Street Journal reporting that Trump lawyers have already met with Mueller to dispute Obstruction charges:

**"Lawyers for Donald Trump have met several times with Special Counsel Robert Mueller in recent months and submitted memos arguing that the president didn’t obstruct justice by firing former FBI chief James Comey and calling into question Mr. Comey’s reliability as a potential witness, people familiar with the matter said.

One memo submitted to Mr. Mueller by the president’s legal team in June laid out the case that Mr. Trump has the inherent authority under the constitution to hire and fire as he sees fit and therefore didn’t obstruct justice when he fired Mr. Comey as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in May, these people said.

Another memo submitted the same month outlined why they believe Mr. Comey would make an unsuitable witness, calling him prone to exaggeration, unreliable in congressional testimony and the source of leaks to the news media, these people said."

Benjamin Wittes saying that politico will have another article out by the end of the day.

I don’t know who that friend is, but he sounds like a typical conspiracy theory nut, fudging the details to make his CT work.

The two examples he gives are the DB funding and the Qatari sovereign fund. Both seem bogus.

The DB loan was said to be a refinance of a loan for a property originally purchased from a Russian oligarch. OK. Russian oligarch sounds bad these days, but a refinance doesn’t involve the original seller of the property. That guy would typically be out of the picture, and whether that person did or didn’t get a sweetheart deal on some pending charges would be irrelevant.

The Qatari thing is again an attempt to just slip some words past the careless reader. The potential investor was at one point in the past the head of the Qatari sovereign fund, but the investment being discussed was from a private fund he was running at the time. (Besides for which it seems to have fallen through long before the election.)

It’s an interesting thing. Trump is the scum of the earth, and he is surrounded by sleazebags. But many or most of the charges by LWers are way over the top and miss the mark widely. Hey, maybe we can make a conspiracy theory out of that …

Doesn’t seem like a big story on its own since it doesn’t have any Earth-shattering information, but it’s a big indication that Trump and his team are worried about obstruction and trying to get out ahead of it. Also, their defense memo is a joke that looks like it was cobbled together from Trump defenders’ posts on this board. “It’s not obstruction because the president is allowed to fire people.” Uh huh, right. And I’m allowed to burn this pile of papers on my desk - UNLESS I’m doing it to cover up a crime or hinder an investigation. Trumpers don’t seem to grasp simple analogies like this though.