What’s really new is that the net is getting cast wider, and it means that more people have interests that are aligned with Trump. More convictions, more elections to lose, more at stake. More money and power on the line. One of those is a key member of the donor class, the Mercers. Considering the donor class is about to get even wealthier with this tax relief scam, it spit shines Trump’s image a little. Trump’s approval ratings are down in the dumps, but so are the party’s. It doesn’t matter anymore because they know that unless they act now to somehow disrupt next year’s election, then they will lose the power that they never should have had in the first place but cannot give up now that they’ve grabbed it.
Why do interests allign with trump when the net gets wider? These nets can also do just the opposite to peoples interests.
Well, there you go, the result of careful coordination over time, to help our good friends fight ISIS. See, there was a perfectly good reason for all the preparatory communication! No wonder they had to keep it secret! Mueller must apologize, and commit seppuku!
If Trump fires Mueller, it will be time to start impeachment hearings. If not now, then when the Democrats take the House, which they likely will even if he doesn’t fire Mueller, but certainly will if he does.
I cannot imagine telegraphing an upcoming dismissal, unless they are trying to force Mueller to show his hand earlier. With a week’s warning, it seems like he could get a lot done.
I think that mueller has already filed and prepared a lot of things that are like hooks with barbs, and they’re already stuck in the adminsitration, in ways that can’t be undone by firing or pardon. Flynns agreement, would be one.
But without 67 Democratic Senators, it goes nowhere. The Republican Party has no morality. They exist for the grifter-in-chief and the kleptocracy.
What does firing Mueller do for Trump, other than maybe making him feel good? Wouldn’t he just get replaced with another person to continue the investigation?
Let’s wait and see how damning Mueller’s evidence is. Based on only what is already known, and understanding what is already known is just a whisper of his total evidence, I believe Mueller will make such a powerful case that enough moderate Republican Senators will be under extraordinary pressure to join their Democratic colleagues to vote for impeachment. By then, the direction of history will be writ large on the wall – and some will want to appear to be on the right side of it. Enough, I think.
Within 2 years, you’ll have a hard time finding anyone, including a Republican Senator, who will readily admit to ever having been in Trump’s corner. Kind of like trying to find someone who admits today to having voted for Nixon.
Pssst: Senators don’t vote on impeachment. Representatives do. Bob was talking about removal from office, which is what the Senate votes on.
After articles of impeachment have been drafted by the House, the Senate “tries” the case to the Supreme Court and then must vote with a 2/3ds majority to impeach. You’re playing with semantics, and there’s no reason for that. You can’t seriously doubt I understand the process of impeachment.
Recreational correction is a traditional Board sport, most of us are too weak for football.
Not necessarily.
Look at what’s happening now. Congress - especially the Senate - said all of the right things after Comey’s dismissal, pretending to care about the investigation. But the people like Chuck Grassley are clearly starting to show their partisan colors. They will probably politicize the process of hiring the next investigator. Maybe they select one of the fresh out of moot court rejects for to be the next investigator.
It might seem like they’re stuck now.
You understand the process, but not the terminology. I’d correct you if you said the SCOTUS issues executive orders of if the president issues judicial rulings in court cases.
Does the Senate need to vote by a two-thirds majority to accomplish the removal of a president from office as a result of impeachment, or not?
After the House impeaches, the Senate votes on whether to remove from office or not. The Senate does not “vote with a 2/3ds majority to impeach”, which is what you said earlier.
Articles of impeachment are drafted by the House, and the House votes on impeachment. Someone reading your earlier post would conclude that Clinton was not impeached, because you made it sound like all the House did was “draft the articles of impeachment”. The process of impeachment takes place entirely in the House.
But I’ll tell you what. Go ahead and say that the Senate votes to impeach as much as you like, and I won’t correct you in the future.
No, no, please correct me every single time I do it. You are 100% on top of your terminology.
And make sure you do it for every other person in this forum who refers to “impeachment” as shorthand for removing this president from office, because I’m sure they all draw that very consequential distinction and only expect the House to draw articles of impeachment without any expectation that this president will be removed from office as a result.
Make sure you’re an equal opportunity pedant. We will all be the better for it.
Looks like Obstruction of Justice is (getting pretty near to) a slam dunk:
That’s interesting, and irrelevant. Congress will not impeach.