What do you expect to see now in this situation?
I think you’re being very kind to donald. He cannot have acted in the deps like he has spoken in public over the last year, because he has been incoherent, and he has not been made to settle on any answer to any question as president. It’s different now. Do you know why they aren’t going to let him appear in front of Florida schoolkids?
He can ramble in depositions but the lawyer will bring him back to the point.
If you read reviews of his prior depositions, they don’t sound much different than he is now.
I read one article by a guy he was suing for libel. The point the guy made is that it wasn’t just about Trump lying but that he himself didn’t appreciate which lies would help him and which would hurt him. (One example I recall - he insisted on taking “credit” for things that he would have been far better off passing off as the work of underlings - especially since the latter was probably closer to the truth - but his ego wouldn’t let him.)
As VT recently put it “he’s a liar who doesn’t realize that he’s also an idiot”.
Same old Trump …
The cite I gave would be unacceptable in a deposition, so that’s one data point. I’m not a lawyer but it sounds risky to me. So maybe he’s too stupid to stay out of jail in criminal proceedings, but he was fine in civil court?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.
What does “unacceptable in a deposition” mean in this context, and what would be “risky” about talking like that in a deposition? IANAL, but I’m unaware of any laws against rambling semi-coherently in a deposition. If that happens I assume the lawyer interviewing him will drag him back on track, but if he doesn’t then I don’t know what the risk is.
The real risk is that he’ll lie in the deposition or otherwise incriminate himself by saying things with legal implications that he doesn’t appreciate (e.g. “I was just fighting back”).
Read it and see if it could stand. At the least he would be asked to speak english, and known as an obfuscator, at worst he could open up lines that are unforeseen by the lawyers.
Testifying by improv? Did you ever try it?
You’ve made me wonder how something like that would go, actually…
Trump: word salad
Mueller: I’m sorry, sir, but I couldn’t understand a single word you said.
Trump: I understood my response perfectly fine. I don’t know how to explain any more clearly. If you don’t get my perfectly simple statement, that’s not my problem.
Trump: I understood my Chicago unusually obtuse. He isn’t why to proactive any more railing. I that isn’t my question, and it’s Hillary’s fault.
Believe me, it needs more “NO COLLUSION!,” “fake,” “all-time greatest memories,” and “I don’t remember.”
What about your brain cells donald? "There was never any collusion. No Collusion, no collusion at all. The best people are saying it and you know that and I know that.
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It’s (“one of the”) “greatest memories of all time” or GMOAT for short, as Cody Johnston of Cracked.com noted last November in his fantastic video Weird How Everyone President Donald Trump Knows Does Crimes (jumps to relevant GMOAT part).
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… and I fukt the quote up, as the BI link shows: “one of the great memories of all time”
I guess Gates has lost his lawyers yet-yet-yet-yet-yet again. Also, apparently, no plea deal.
Supposedly he did have his plea interview (assuming the media wasn’t lied to), and that would mean that Team Mueller knows everything there is to know in Gates’ world, and presumably can continue to investigate in that direction based on any revelations he may have granted them?
That said, I suspect that the reason that Gates has lost all of his lawyers is from consistently lying to them about his finances and what all he has done, in obvious ways. So, it’s just as likely that his plea got turned down because he just sat there and told Mueller a bunch of crap that wasn’t true and which they knew to not be true. And that would also mean that he wouldn’t have given them anything to investigate.
I wonder if he needs to go into witness protection or something. Maybe he’s in an impossible situation where can’t reveal anything, for fear of assassination, but also can’t risk going to jail because he’s got a family. It’ll be interesting to see if Gates suddenly disappears from the face of Earth.
Muahahaha! I nailed it. Stephen Calk:
Am I really the only one to have seen this yet?
Manafort and Gates hit with new 32 count indictment for tax and bank fraud.
These alleged crimes would have occurred in January 2017.
It’s been about for most of the day; I never got around to posting it.
I keep expecting Gates to pull a My Cousin Vinny…“You were serious about that?”
No worries, Manafort will get an hour to walk around the yard every day.
With all that polonium coursing through his veins that seems unlikely.
An alternative explanation is that he simply didn’t/couldn’t tell them anything that they didn’t already have solid evidence for.
Maybe soon. Because if the new allegations are true, Manafort used fraud to acquire the properties that he pledged as collateral for his physical freedom. So they may revoke his bail.
I read most of the actual indictment and there’s some serious crimes being accused. Recent ones, too. Now I understand why they pulled the guns drawn SWAT team style raid on Manafort back in the summer. And why they laughed in Manafort’s face whenever he requested exceptions to his house arrest.
Appears that Gates has had “a change of heart” (per a letter sent to his friends and family) and he’s going to deal. Possibly today.
Here’s the plea document.