Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

Sorry, but no way. If it turns out they were plotting a murder then yes it’s a different situation but all the legal talky talk has been about whether the meeting violated election laws. I remain leaning towards Bricker’s reasoning concerning the info we have so far from jr’s statements and emails.

Think! Is there any other explanation for Nickleback?

Why? That’s just the British translation of “Russian government lawyer”. :confused:

No, it is a bit confusing though.

The emails that DJ released talked about a crown prosecutor, and that the information was coming from this person, not that the person that donnie was going to meet with was a crown prosecutor, but instead, that she was a lawyer that was working for the russian govt.

There is also the fact that the person who wrote the emails to little don was in britian, where they have crown prosecutors, like we have district attorneys. In Russia, they do not actually have crown prosecutors, they are called “state prosecutors”, or more precisely, they are “государственный прокурор”.

So this woman who is a defense attorney for the real estate agency is a lawyer, not a prosecutor. She is also the one who was set up for the meeting with President WTF’s spawnling.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

Its gonna be the money. The political shit he can squirm out of, but the money always leave fingerprints, especially big hulking gobs of the shit. And by an odd coincidence, Mr Mueller has staffed up some money-laundering sleuths for ferreting.

In case anybody else was wondering about WTF a “crown prosecutor” means in Russia…

And how do you know she was working for the government? A very reasonable hypothesis is that she was working for the real estate company all along and made the meeting to exchange Hillary dirt for dropping the money laundering suit.

There are no independent actors in Russia. Anyone you’re going to talk to is going to have ties to the Kremlin.

Well, Don Trump Jr. would have been under the assumption that she was working for the government, since his buddy Goldstone told him so in an email:

I don’t, but son of orange would have every reason to think so, having read the email that said she was an an attorney for the russian govt.

Goldstone may very well have lied in the email that he sent, but that wouldn’t change, in any way, that she is not a Crown Prosecutor, as you were under the impression of.

But you don’t get it! Donald Jr. was playing 64 dimensional chess, because he knew that she was not actually a Russian government lawyer, even though he says he didn’t know her name prior to the meeting.

It’s becoming more and more obvious that Donald Jr. has supernatural powers to both know and not know things at the same time. A quantum idiot, as it were.

Then why did you make that exact assertion? Here, let me remind you

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That’s ‘quantum idiot savante’ to you, Buddy!

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According to a guy who seems to know what he’s talking about*:

*From the byline: Rolf Mowatt-Larssen is the director of the Intelligence and Defense Project at Harvard’s Belfer Center. He served for three years as director of intelligence and counterintelligence at the Department of Energy and for 23 years as a CIA intelligence officer in domestic and international posts.

Right, and that was in direct reference to the emails received by the little Con, wherein, it stated explicitly, “Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.”

If you read what I wrote, in it’s entirety, “The emails that DJ released talked about a crown prosecutor, and that the information was coming from this person, not that the person that donnie was going to meet with was a crown prosecutor, but instead, that she was a lawyer that was working for the russian govt.” you would see that my statement referenced the assertions made in the emails, not assertions that I am making, personally.

This is why context is so very important. When you take just a single phrase out of a larger sentence, it can change the meaning, sometimes drastically. Some people do this with the intent of changing the meaning, like when they harped on Obama’s “You didn’t build that.”, or Clinton’s “We’re going to be putting a lot of coal workers out of jobs” (paraphrased on that last one.) where just that one part almost reverses the meaning of the whole phrase. So, that’s another reason why, in open, honest, and level debate, it is important not to accidently do the same thing, else, people may think that you are not being on the level yourself.

So give me a little extra context. Two days ago, before this DOJ money laundering story, how convinced were you that this lady was either a State Prosecutor or a Government Attorney?

I knew for a fact that this person was not a state prosecutor, as the state prosecutor (“Crown prosecutor”) in the email is a different entity than the lawyer referenced in the email just from reading the email chain. The email references the “Crown prosecutor” who has obtained the info, and a “Russian government attorney” who was going to be delivering the info in a meeting. I was never under the impression that these were one and the same. I take it by how you keep getting stuck on this point that you did?

I was also never under the impression that this person was a government attorney, in that she was employed directly by the govt, because I read the context around her in the same session as reading about pj’s email chain.

I did not know, nor do I know now, whether she was representing the russian govt for this meeting, but I do know that that was the claim made in the email that son of chump replied with “I love it”, so there is plenty of reason to believe that dumber trumper thought so. That is info that may come out with the investigation, or it may not, but it does not matter, all that matters is what the recipient of the info did with it.

Nobody ever said she was a state prosecutor (or a crown prosecutor). You are the only, only, only one who appears confused about this.

Mr. Goldstone said in his email to Junior that he was setting up a meeting with “The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday”. This was written in the email to Donnie Jr.

She has subsequently claimed not to be a “government attorney”. But it is very, very clear that she is well connected in Russian government circles.

I don’t know why you are continuing this line of enquiry, and continuing to be “confused”, unless it is simply for more amusement and golf claps. If so, please discontinue - this is not the pit.

And why does it matter if jr. thought it was a government employee? If he thought he was meeting with some oligarch’s secretary that would have made some difference to anyone?