Hm. His lawyer describes him as a senior VP at a real estate development firm owned by a Russian oligarch who “has never had any engagement with the Russian government in any capacity.”. Well, that sounds plausible.
I’m starting to feel left out.
Pretty soon, the Trump Jr meeting will be the biggest ever. Period.
Maybe if we start taunting Trump about his tiny meetings he’ll finally release the attendance sheet?
The son of a man with a billion-dollar business, and a grown man with a career of his own - and he doesn’t make sure he knows who he is talking to, who’s listening to what he says, and that there’s an accurate note kept of what’s said and decided at a meeting?
Pull the other one.
You’re going back to square one here. The bigger of a businessman he is, the less likely he is to keep track of who is in various meetings, not more.
Someone countered that he would have been aware that this particular meeting was of unusual significance, such that he would have made a particular effort to document the attendees. I’m suggesting that this may not have been the case.
Well, you’re on pretty safe ground there. I don’t think anyone could deny that this may not have been the case. And I may be the Queen of Romania.
Veryworth a read, and suggests that we are overblowing political collusion because the real story is just wanton greed. The political collusion was just late game opportunism.
Also, the eighth man at the meeting was identified, and is an expert money launderer. Mueller apparently already digging in.
No, you may not, as I have not abdicated. Would you consider elevation to becoming Duchess of Hamster?
That’s what I said.
Back in the day, I used to have to go to a lot of meetings. I always took meeting notes for my own records. Well, okay, sometimes my notes were sketchy when it turned out that nothing of substance was being said. But I always started off taking detailed notes.
And each set of meeting notes started out with date, time, and a list of attendees. If I wasn’t sure of the names of all in attendance, I’d still make some note of how many were there and what their connection was (i.e., “2 from HR dept.”)
Early on in my career, it was even more important to me that I take notes of all my meetings, simply because I wasn’t always sure of the significance of the meeting and/or the attendees. That’s how I helped assure that something said in the meeting wouldn’t be misrepresented later.
Well yes, that’s true for most who are successful in business, but I’m given to understand that Donald Trump Jr.'s story is that he himself is a complete incompetent fuckup. And also, IT’S NOT ILLEGAL.
It is early to speculate, but I’m curious if the “no harm meant, we’re just politically naive! ¯_(ツ)_/¯” defense would ever be used by Trump himself. Would he just float along on top of his people’s excuse-making, claiming all the while that he’s always been totally on top of things?
I doubt that he could admit ignorance publicly – even past ignorance. Note how he talks about facts he seems to have just learned: “a lot of people don’t know” that France is America’s oldest ally, or – paraphrasing similar statements – that reconciliation couldn’t repeal all of Obamacare, or that healthcare reform is difficult, or that China and Korea have a long, complicated history, or …
I see more intellectual curiosity every day in a high school classroom full of juvenile delinquents who think they know everything because their homies told them what state prison is like, or they heard about the Illuminati in this one YouTube video, or whatever.
At least the delinquents sometimes ask for basic factual information, like, say, “is Tokyo communist?” in front of other people. (That’s a real question I got today, and I respect the kid who was willing to ask it.)
No. Nor is it a country.
Yeah, I know. But the kid didn’t, and he was willing to ask. So he gets points from me.
He gets even more points for not pretending, a la our president, that either
A) Tokyo’s non-communist status is a rarely-known fact, or
B) He already knew all there was to know about Tokyo.
Even in an environment where ignorance is often a point of pride, this kid was willing to ask a dumb-ass question and accept an answer. I honestly cannot imagine such curiosity, courage, and graciousness from our president.
“I know more about Tokyo than anyone in the foreign service”
“Not many people know that Tokyo is a communist country”
(not real quotes)
I’ve heard from many people – good people – that Tokyo is a Communist country.
Frederick Douglass was just mentioning this on CNN this morning!
It’s coming out now that Trump and Putin had a second meeting at the G20 where they were alone and Trump hid from everyone until now.
Huh.