If you’ve survived, that is.
Except that on descent to landing airplanes pass through 200’ altitude. This is likely a situation where either aircraft being at that location a half minute sooner or later would have resulted in a near-miss rather than a collision.
This sort of speculation highlights why a real, thorough investigation is needed to determine exactly what happened.
Cue purge of ATC than will result in even fewer controllers and shorter staffing at airports across the nation.
Think I may stick with Amtrak for the next eight years (that’s how long it takes to fully train a new controller)
While there are disabilities that, to my mind, would rule out ATC as a profession I can not, for the life of me, figure out how dwarfism would be a bar to being an effective controller. Unless you just hate anyone who isn’t an able-bodied Christian White cis het male. Oh, wait…
Well, even IF ATC had seen this (and of course they have a different angle on and proximity to the accident point than either pilot) the guys in the control tower don’t have a button saying “take over flying” and a joystick, ultimately it’s the pilot(s) involved to avoid the collision. Even if ATC is shouting “DIVE!” or “CLIMB!” or “TURN!” it still takes the pilot acting on that.
Arguably, if ATC had been yelling that into the mike it might have alerted the pilot(s) and avoided an accident but in the end the pilots are responsible for the safe operation of their aircraft. Colliding into another aircraft (or anything else) is the antithesis of “safe operaton”.
Is the volume of traffic on a freeway “responsible” for all accidents on that freeway? Or is it the actions of the drivers on that freeway?
Traffic volume is a possible contributing factor (after all, there have to be at least two aircraft in the airspace to have a mid-air collision) but there are lots of crowded airports and they’re crowded 24/7/365, we don’t have a constant rain of aluminum. Crowded skies alone are not responsible for this accident.
Yeah, well, that ship has sailed…
We also don’t know if traffic was exceptionally heavy at the time this collision occurred.
I gotta admit, as I read that headline and started reading the article, I didn’t realize it was satire until I noticed the Onion tag at top left.
I’m also looking for @Shayna to come back and (1) show us where people are pointing fingers at Trump for the accident (rather than his psychotic, cold-hearted response to it) and (2) explain how Biden is directly at fault for signing a bill that covered everything at the FAA and passed with overwhelming margins, which didn’t actually change something that caused this accident anyway.
I have seen some people on Facebook blame DJT for firing the head of FAA, but this had nothing to do with it all. The people in the control tower do what they do no matter who happens to be in charge of the FAA. The FAA chief was fired because President Musk’s panties got in a twist over the FAA grounding his spaceship until the recent accident is investigated, causes identified, and solutions implemented. None of this had anything to do with the number of people in the tower.
What a sane president would do is offer condolences and promise a thorough investigation. What a dipstick would do is run (ok, walk in his case) to a microphone and blame it on there not being 100% white Christian heterosexual males in the tower. Blaming it on Biden for signing a massive bill that had huge bipartisan support is beyond silly. It’s the old “this bill does not make everything 100% perfect so it shouldn’t have passed” nonsense.
MAGA is working on a solution, a final one, to that problem. Let us pray that it’s one that takes two weeks.
Hmmm, I think I see the problem.
That is a direct quote from Trump. I assume that means the copter pilot was black and also that somehow Biden and Obama are responsible.
Of course it’s the Blackhawk’s fault. It says Black right there.
Tranraceism. Clearly the helicopter is Indian not Black and I’ll bet it identifies as an attack helicopter.
This makes no fucking sense at all, unsurprisingly. What does an EO accomplish? What is he ordering? It’s just a personal rant cloaked as an official document.
I always hated flying into and out of (then) National Airport. Especially landing. That long low altitude approach over the river with buildings on each side was unnerving to me, as I tried not to think about how short that runway is.
it wasn’t an executive order. It was a “presidential memorandum”. Not the same thing.
They have it on the White House’s web site to read:
It’s literally a memo, not an order.
Here is the Wikipedia article on presidential memoranda:
I’ll give trump credit for not saying, “this would never have happened if I was President”.
Ah. I was going off of a previous post that said it was an EO.
I hold Trump responsible for the crash.
1. As Commander in Chief, he is responsible for all service members and their equipment.
2. As Head of the Executive Branch, he is responsible for administering civil aviation.
Of course, responsibility for problem is separate than the cause of the problem, which should be investigated. But Trump is responsible for the crash.
Of course Trump is responsible. He is responsible for every fuckup that happens while he is president, isn’t he?
I think DEI is widely misunderstood. It is not about hiring a less qualified woman (gay, whatever) over a more qualified straight white male Protestant, but it is about hiring the more qualified person over the less qualified straight white male Protestant. Trump has demonstrated richly what can happen if you ignore quality, in this case to hire sycophants.
According to ‘them’ a straight white male Protestant is always more qualified by definition.
Yes, in theory.
Anecdotal, but at my previous workplace, I was pressured into hiring a female who was much less qualified than a male. YMMV, of course.
“President Truman had a no-nonsense approach to decision making. The sign, ‘The Buck Stops Here’ on his desk reflected his belief that he was ultimately responsible for the actions of his administration.”
When Trump gives a televised address from the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, behind him you can see pictures of his (several) lovely family(ies). Midst those pictures sits a brass placard that reads, simply, “The Buck Stops With The Black Guy.”