Trump committed obstruction of justice by threatening Comey.

Based on the conversation in the “You’ve told me I wasn’t a target” thread, I read this is as a warning that if Comey now says Trump was a target, Trump can produce documentary evidence (a tape) of Comey saying that Trump was not a target.

But who the hell knows?

Trump is the guy with spilled groceries shouting at a car as it drives off.

But if Comey isn’t an idiot, the tape would reveal only the sound of a shower running.

there is no tape; it’s just a stupid arsed clown who can’t funcntion unless everyone knows he’s in charge.

My bolding. :frowning:

I guess that’s a possibility. Still, Comey is a careful man and undoubtedly would be extra careful when talking with the loose-cannon-in-chief.

Oh there very easily could be tapes. It was apparently a long standing rumour he did the same in the business world.

Trump’s tweeted “threat” against Comey is one of MANY things he’s said and done, which are being blown wildly out of proportion by eager people hoping to bring Trump down.

I ALSO sharply dislike Trump, and am convinced that he is continuously harming the best interests of the United States and it’s people as long as he is in office. However, jumping up and down and shouting unsupportable accusations against him every time he utters another thoughtless remark, is actually HELPING HIM STAY WHERE HE IS.

This Comey “threat” is an excellent example. What Trump actually tweeted was “James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press.”

 Trump certainly insulted Comey with that, asserting that anything Comey might "leak to the press" would  be a lie.  But it's not even remotely a threat.  And there are a lot of people in the various media who are further blowing things up, by running off with the idea that Trump was claiming that HE was recording all his meetings surreptitiously.   THAT isn't there in the tweet either.  

If a sane and sober person looks at this calmly and factually, it is easy to see that the entire thing is standard issue Trump. He is infamous for blurting things out that he thinks will work to let him have his way, without having put any thought at all into it before doing so. He has himself openly and proudly declared that he will lie, exaggerate, and say things he does not mean at all, as a part of what he thinks is a “brilliant negotiating technique.”

That’s all that this is.

That’s a pretty darn reasonable assumption to make even if it isn’t explicitly in the tweet.

Good luck with that.

Aint gonna happen

 ??  You're advocating ASSUMING things that are not in the evidence presented?  You're on your own with that prejudice.

I’m not on a jury, my friend, and I’m not going to ridiculously naive just to give a guy like Trump the benefit of the doubt. He is undoubtedly implying that he has a tape and who the hell else would have been taping a convo between Trump and Comey.

AFAIK I have seen reports of former Trump workers that tell us that he used to record many of his conversations, but I have seen also reports of times when Trump has bluffed about an specific conversation being recorded so as to intimidate opponents, but in reality he had nothing. However, it is still a very bad idea to bluff here.

I don’t know about you guys, but if I was talking to the president in the Oval Office (or anywhere in the WH, for that matter), I would assume that our conversation was being recorded.

For sure. Nixon recorded all his telephone conversations also:

What Trump probably does not understand is that any tapes (or digital recordings) he might be making in the White House, so long as they

are not his property. They are, under Title 44, chapter 22 of the U.S. Code, public property—and he may not destroy them under penalty of law. Furthermore, any recordings he may be making that fit the very broad definition above (one that would certainly include the ‘dinner with Comey’ as Trump describes it) may be subpoenaed by any government agency that may happen to be investigating anything relating to Trump.

Trump will rue the day he posted that witless attempt to intimidate Comey.

Why would any sane POTUS record his conversations anyway - that is, conversations in which he plans to say something sketchy?

Nixon did it because he believed the recordings were his property and fully under his control; that changed with the 1974 addition to the US Code mentioned in my previous post (as a direct result of the Watergate scandal, of course).

After 1974 some Presidents recorded and some didn’t; presumably those who recorded refrained from saying sketchy stuff.

A long and on-point article is available on the NPR site, today; a short excerpt:

The Shadowy History Of The Secret White House Tapes : NPR

That word, “sane”…

I’ve got to agree with this. Trump Derangement Syndrome is pretty strong.

Jean-Marie le Pen (the racist French presidential candidate and father of more recent racist French presidential candidate Marine le Pen) would win “points” from voters with a “gotcha!” strategy. He would start by saying something racist and extreme. The media would exaggerate his “point”, and then he would catch them in their exaggeration. Over and over again. This made voters think the media was “picking” on him.

Trump actually does have a few skills, like trolling people and causing them to act more like him (eg less sane, less intelligent, and so forth). He’s also good at making the media look like bullies when he is in fact bullying them. It’s time for the media to take a deep breath and think before responding.

I doubt it.

(1) Trump does not seem much like a ruing type to me.

(2) Like Inspector Clouseau, he stumbles, trips, and bungles his way along. . . inexplicably frequently avoiding the mishaps that should befall him. I’m sometimes torn between seeing him as witless and seeing as a careful planner trying to appear witless. Here his tweet stays on the legal side of not actually saying there is a recording, allowing him to drop back and claim there is no recording if necessary or produce one if needed. Is that luck or design? I honestly don’t know.